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So you're admitting The Choose both who did and didn't get the money.
I admit God is the only one to choose to give the money. I used that example of showing "fairness"
double predestination is God deliberately makes people evil in order to send them to hell, that is not scriptural since we are all destined to hell from the beginning of birth, it is God who CHOOSES to save some by granting them repentance allowing them to turn back and seek righteousness.
The bible says, God's desire is for all to be saved. So why aren't all saved?
I admit God is the only one to choose to give the money. I used that example of showing "fairness"
double predestination is God deliberately makes people evil in order to send them to hell, since we are all destined to hell from the beginning of birth, it is God who CHOOSES to save some by granting them repentance allowing to turn back and seek righteousness.
The bible says, God's desire is for all to be saved. So why aren't all saved?
Do you think God could ever have demonstrated His love to man any other way than dying for Him when he was at is worst ?.
Your answer to this will tell you why man fell and the whole purpose and plan of God through the ages
Do you think God could ever have demonstrated His love to man any other way than dying for Him when he was at is worst ?.
Your answer to this will tell you why man fell and the whole purpose and plan of God through the ages
I already know the answer. It is for His glory; that's it. God dying for man is a bi product of Him getting the glory. If dying for us doesn't give Him the glory then He wouldn't have done it.
I admit God is the only one to choose to give the money. I used that example of showing "fairness"
double predestination is God deliberately makes people evil in order to send them to hell, that is not scriptural since we are all destined to hell from the beginning of birth, it is God who CHOOSES to save some by granting them repentance allowing them to turn back and seek righteousness.
The bible says, God's desire is for all to be saved. So why aren't all saved?
Cause, for one I don't believe in predestination, We have to choose him.
I admit God is the only one to choose to give the money. I used that example of showing "fairness"
double predestination is God deliberately makes people evil in order to send them to hell, that is not scriptural since we are all destined to hell from the beginning of birth, it is God who CHOOSES to save some by granting them repentance allowing them to turn back and seek righteousness.
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You are talking out of both sides of your mouth here Fundy and ignoring plain logic and reason. The fact is, according to you, God chose some to be saved. Therefore, according to your doctrine, He leaves the rest to burn in eternal torture, because He didn't choose to save them. God could have saved all, but didn't - why not? Especially since He desires to save all?
Now, according to you, we are all born deserving an eternal hell. So who made us in this state? Ourselves? Adam? Satan? Lets put the power where it belongs. God is the one who has created everything in the state that it is in . That is why He is responsible.
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The bible says, God's desire is for all to be saved. So why aren't all saved?
They will be, as the bible says. You just don't believe the scriptures.
God is not inept as you make Him out to be. He will actually achieve His desires.
I am not denying anything. Let's play law here. Does it say God has His chosen-the ones He changed to go against their own nature and seek righteousness, those He elected; predestined to go to heaven? YES!
Agreed.
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Does the bible say, that God has His chosen-the ones He made evil, deliberately active in making them do wickedness, those He elected; predestined to hell? NO!
That's because the bible doesn't say that anyone goes to an eternal hell.
Look. You are saying God created people who are so evil in themselves that they deserve hell. God in His ultimate foreknowledge, knew that the people He Himself created would be so evil, that they would only be deserving of hell. So, God also created an eternal hell for His own creation, because He knew they would be so evil. And then God only decided to save some of them.
God doesnt desire to save all or He would do it..job 23:
13But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
You witnessing for the wrong god..
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I admit God is the only one to choose to give the money. I used that example of showing "fairness"
