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Yes, but major crime exists in the suburbs too. This is especially true in black suburbs. The wealthy black areas with low crime in the black suburbs mirror the wealthy black areas with low crime in the city. Woodmore and Friendly are just like Hillcrest, Fort Dupont, and Eastland Gardens, etc.
Of course it does, but if you're not wealthy, you're more likely to be able to afford a house in a relatively safe suburban neighborhood than a comparable one in the city.
The bottom line is that statistically speaking, Black folks generally fare better in integrated, middle-class neighborhoods (whether in central cities or suburbs or small towns) but most neighborhoods don't really stabilize in the demographic middle and tend towards one demographic end or the other. It seems that both White flight suburban neighborhoods and gentrifying urban neighborhoods each have their own tipping points, at least historically. I've read that there's evidence that this might be changing.
Where does everyone see the black community in Atlanta proper and DC proper moving forward? Are there any middle-class black neighborhoods rising in the city propers? Displacement has taken hold of all major cities for black people, but based on census data, DC proper actually gained about 16k new net black people from 2010-2016. Ward 7 and Ward 8 in DC have become the new destination for black homeowners with homes still affordable at $350k-$700k still.
Is that also happening in Atlanta? If so, which neighborhoods? Has Atlanta proper added new net black population over the last decade or has it been mostly in the suburbs? I think it’s so important to speak to black people and encourage home ownership in the city proper versus the suburbs. The majority of black people across the nation are still thinking like our white counterparts did in the 1950s and leaving for the suburbs like it’s the promise land, but wealth is returning to the cities and poverty is rising in the suburbs. I fear we as a people will be shutout of the cities if we keep choosing to leave them. Yes, some people are priced out, but others leave by choice with a dated perception that moving to the suburbs is the future.
Funny most black people I meet think a home that cost over 400K is too much.
I’m happy you brought up the city proper. That’s the point I was making in my post earlier before I was attacked about not place my views on suburbs.
I agree with you 100%. Would be nice to see affluent blacks get some territory in Black areas.
Those rappers are rich and aren't living in the "slums" which are rapidly gentrifying anyway or are on the verge of doing so. They are mainly either living in Buckhead or the more well-to-do Black suburbs. Either way, to suggest that Atlanta's popularity with Blacks is solely because of rappers is a hilariously uninformed thing to say.
Those rappers most def represent the slums of the A. Do you listen to rap music or watch music videos? It doesn’t matter if they live in Buckhead or not!
I mean I already know they don’t physically live in the ghetto.
Those rappers most def represent the slums of the A. Do you listen to rap music or watch music videos? It doesn’t matter if they live in Buckhead or not!
I mean I already know they don’t physically live in the ghetto.
What slums?
Atlanta rappers who grew up in Suburban Atlanta:
Future went to Colombia High School in Decatur.Not wealthy but hardly a slum
2 Chains went to North Clayton In Clayton County
OutKast went to Tri Cities High school.AGAIN.NOT A SLUM.Not even close
Ludacris went to Banneker High which is just outside of the city limits of Atlanta
Jermain Dupri dad was a record executive
T.I. is definitely from the hood in Atlanta.Bankhead
21 Savage is from England and moved to Atlanta when he was young,His mother remarried a Doctor
Wacka Flocka was born in Queens and moved to the suburb of Riverdale in Clayton County
Jeezy was raised in middle Georgia not Atlanta
Migos was formed in 2008, by Quavo (born Quavious Keyate Marshall),[11] Takeoff (born Kirshnik Khari Ball),[12] and Offset (born Kiari Kendrell Cephus),[13] and they originally called themselves the Polo Club. The three members are directly related and were raised together; Quavo is Takeoff's uncle, and Offset is Quavo's cousin.[14] The three of them grew up together in suburban Atlanta, approximately 40 minutes northeast of Downtown in Gwinnett County. "I ain't going to sit here like, 'My neighborhood was hard, and I had to get out there and grind.' We made it hard for ourselves. We chose to stay on the streets," Quavo said.
But even still its not like Atlanta very large black middle class comes from rapping
Atlanta is not popular because of that.
If anything what did it was its many black a colleges which laid the ground work for a large black middle class
Those rappers most def represent the slums of the A. Do you listen to rap music or watch music videos? It doesn’t matter if they live in Buckhead or not!
I mean I already know they don’t physically live in the ghetto.
CleverOne covered this but rappers “from Atlanta†aren’t often from the inner city or worse parts from what I’ve read and seen. By far it seems most black people in Atlanta live pretty comfortable lives-Atlanta has real hoods but it seems like they’re home to a small fraction of the black community compared to most places. The standards for black QOL is higher in the A.
Those rappers most def represent the slums of the A. Do you listen to rap music or watch music videos? It doesn’t matter if they live in Buckhead or not!
I mean I already know they don’t physically live in the ghetto.
Uh there aren't even anymore public housing projects in Atlanta so I don't know what "slums" you're talking about, unless you consider any working- or middle-class Black neighborhood a "slum."
CleverOne covered this but rappers “from Atlanta†aren’t often from the inner city or worse parts from what I’ve read and seen. By far it seems most black people in Atlanta live pretty comfortable lives-Atlanta has real hoods but it seems like they’re home to a small fraction of the black community compared to most places. The standards for black QOL is higher in the A.
Well, a couple of the rappers on that list do come from suburbs where you can/could catch it like East Point(about 35,000 people) and College Park(about 15,000 people). There have been some relatively recent years where both have had high single digit/double figure numbers in terms of homicides.
Well, a couple of the rappers on that list do come from suburbs where you can/could catch it like East Point(about 35,000 people) and College Park(about 15,000 people). There have been some relatively recent years where both have had high single digit/double figure numbers in terms of homicides.
Yes those areas have higher than average rates but they arent slums. Only place in Atlanta I would consider a slum is on the Westside. The Bluffs(English Ave) and some areas around Bankhead. Nothing in East Point or College Park compare to those areas .Even when you consider murder rates
Well, a couple of the rappers on that list do come from suburbs where you can/could catch it like East Point(about 35,000 people) and College Park(about 15,000 people). There have been some relatively recent years where both have had high single digit/double figure numbers in terms of homicides.
I remember a few rappers hyping College Park during the Crunk/Trill era. Judging from the crime reports here on C-D for both, they would be classified as hood/ghetto suburbs in my region.
But I will say that neither one is blighted from what I see on street-view and could be mistaken for regular lower middle class. I wonder is it because in the past two decades or so Atlanta metro has experience huge amounts of growth, that even the grimiest suburbs in the area have reaped some of the benefits. The regional airport even spills over into College Park city limits, so I imagine it serves as a considerable boost to its local economy. Also, because Atlanta is largely black(both in city and suburbs/exurbs) that suburbs like College Park and East Pointe probably aren't as ostracized in comparison to Midwestern counterparts.
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I remember a few rappers hyping College Park during the Crunk/Trill era. Judging from the crime reports here on C-D for both, they would be classified as hood/ghetto suburbs in my region.
But I will say that neither one is blighted from what I see on street-view and could be mistaken for regular lower middle class. I wonder is it because in the past two decades or so Atlanta metro has experience huge amounts of growth, that even the grimiest suburbs in the area have reaped some of the benefits. The regional airport even spills over into College Park city limits, so I imagine it serves as a considerable boost to its local economy. Also, because Atlanta is largely black(both in city and suburbs/exurbs) that suburbs like College Park and East Pointe probably aren't as ostracized in comparison to Midwestern counterparts.
This is when Street view and hype goes wrong. College Park is ghetto or hood as a whole and Hartsfield-Jackson isn't a regional airport. If College Park was in the Midwest, it would not be seen as hood even though it may have some hood spots but it isn't an unsafe area.
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