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No, it's not a joke. I know that a lot of history took place in Philadelphia. A lot of history took place lots of places. But what are the remnants, the historic SITES there now. That's what I think of when I think "historic value." That there are historic buildings and sites that are well-preserved and open and available to the public, and are tourist-type destinations.
And yeah. Independence Hall. So now we have 4: Independence Hall, Betsy Ross House, Franklin's grave, Liberty Bell. And ....
Two entire neighborhoods called Society Hill and Old City filled to the brim with historic structures. First U.S. Customs building. First and second banks of the U.S. First U.S. Stock Exchange Building. the list goes on and on. You literally don't know jack about Philadelphia do you? Philadelphia has more historic and well preserved structures than anywhere in the U.S. save MAYBE Boston. Society Hill is anighborhood in Philadelphia and is home to the larger collection of Colonial homes in the U.S.
He'll just do anything. You are on the internet and have the world of knowledge at your fingertips. Why don't you learn something and know what you are talking about before you make such ridiculous posts...because it's laughable how wrong you are and you just sound ignorant
Not shocked at all with Boston winning by a landslide but what does shock me is the fact that Philadelphia has had such a small number of votes.
Philadelphia was originally not an option. It was added today. All of those 32 votes for "other" are for Philadelphia. Go back and read the thread. Would assume some people who voted for other cities too would've voted or Philadelphia had it been an option. I tried creating a REAL history thread with actual cities with historic value to see how the poll results would've turned out, but naturally, it was deleted. Apparently, facts are frowned upon on City-data. No surprise. If one of the same 7 cities aren't wining a poll (NYC, Chicago, DC, SF, LA, Seattle, Boston) the thread is viewed as non-factual and the other posters are accused of creating fake accounts to vote. LOL
New York City is the best place in the country to see the history of America from about the post-Civil War period through the 1930s in a lot of ways... You can see the whole progression through the waves of European immigrants that swept the country in the late 18th Century to the grand buildings and later skyscrapers built as America grew towards it's eventual role as the world's superpower. But part of this meant that a lot of the old history of New York was being built over frequently. The Dutch history and original architecture of Manhattan has been lost in a lot of ways since the Civil War. The few remnants of this period are usually resedential homes further out in the midst of the bouroughs that survived and were restored as historic monuments.
It's also because New York has so many other famous tourist attractions that the Colonial-era buildings that remain aren't heavily promoted as tourist attractions. You can walk right by Federal Hall or the Fraunces Tavern in Lower Manhattan and not really notice them--and the scale of much of the city is so much larger than the oldest buildings seem tiny in comparison. In Boston, the colonial buildings that remain are heavily promoted with the Freedom Trail tour, while in Philadelphia you have a whole area of colonial sites around the Old City area. When people think of history they naturally seek out the oldest surviving and notable buildings--people aren't as drawn to a place like the Tenement Musuem on the Lower East Side as much as a place like the Old State House in Boston.
Pretty much right on with that post. There is actually a significant amount of historic architecture from before the Civil War, but little of that is actually in the parts of Manhattan frequented by tourists and so aren't really touted so much. The fact is NYC's draw is on much more than its older history for people. There is a bit of a cheat in the Cloisters though--that's in Manhattan and though way up in Washington Heights, it does get some tourist traffic. It cheats because it has parts of medieval monastery buildings moved here in the early 20th century from southern France. Hell of a cheat.
LA is super modern, that's why I'm saying that. Im guessing buildings in Boston (the city I selected) probably Average at least 50 years older than the ones in LA.
Does not necessarily mean that people should vote for another city instead of Boston, but they should at least stop and think about it for a second.
Anyway its a shame, Philadelphia should have been on the poll right from the start and not stuck on as an afterthought on the bottom of the list after so many people already voted!
No, it's not a joke. I know that a lot of history took place in Philadelphia. A lot of history took place lots of places. But what are the remnants, the historic SITES there now. That's what I think of when I think "historic value." That there are historic buildings and sites that are well-preserved and open and available to the public, and are tourist-type destinations.
And yeah. Independence Hall. So now we have 4: Independence Hall, Betsy Ross House, Franklin's grave, Liberty Bell. And ....
Visting protected historic buildings or "sites" is of course interesting but to history buffs other places that something took place in are also interesting. For instance, when visiting Gettysburg, Saratoga, Bull Run, Vicksburg, Yorktown, Shiloh, etc. battlefields, you should not expect to find dead bodies lying around (we hope!). But still many find visting these places to be interesting and even sometimes, emotional at some level.
In other words, you do not necessarily need a museum building to discover the history of a place, especially if your well read on that place.
Regarding Philadelphia, which has been one of our largest cities for hundreds of years, there will also be something where history and culture sort of combine, a unique "sense of place". This will especially noticeable for someone coming from a modern suburb into say an old city like Philadelphia, Charleston or New Orleans.
Philly wasn't on the poll initially which allowed Boston to get the votes. Philly shouldve been on the poll to begin with.
Dude what is your problem with Boston. I've never seen a poster on CD ride a city they aren't from so hard. Why do you hate on Boston so much, it's getting sad.
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