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Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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The problem with threads similar to these are the lack of knowledge about cities outside metro Atlanta.
The second and third largest metros in Georgia versus the most populated in Alabama. I used the largest county and the two largest suburban counties in each metro. This is the 2012 presidential election results. President Map - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com
Only Georgia's not that different from Alabama when asking voters directly about their attitudes on certain issues (abortion, death penalty, taxes, civil rights, same sex marriage, etc.). Overall, Georgia is more economically conservative than every southern state and virtually neck and neck with South Carolina and Alabama in social conservatism. Georgia Republicans specifically are more conservative than Alabama Republicans.
I mean, really, do you guys think Georgia is not a conservative state? Or do you think it's more moderate?
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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Only Georgia's not that different from Alabama when asking voters directly about their attitudes on certain issues (abortion, death penalty, taxes, civil rights, same sex marriage, etc.). Overall, Georgia is more economically conservative than every southern state and virtually neck and neck with South Carolina and Alabama in social conservatism. Georgia Republicans specifically are more conservative than Alabama Republicans.
I mean, really, do you guys think Georgia is not a conservative state? Or do you think it's more moderate?
Have much time have you spent in cities or towns outside metro Atlanta? And what is the source for your results on abortion, death penalty, etc? The results from the 2012 presidential election aren't even three years old.
The suburbs of the 2nd and 3rd largest metros in Georgia are less conservative compared to the largest metro in Alabama.
The suburbs of the 2nd and 3rd largest metros in Georgia are less conservative compared to the largest metro in Alabama.
It's the counties outside of the cities that make the difference. For non-Hispanic Whites in Georgia to be more Republican than Whites in South Carolina, that means that whites outside of the metros must be disproportionately Republican.
It's the counties outside of the cities that make the difference. For non-Hispanic Whites in Georgia to be more Republican than Whites in South Carolina, that means that whites outside of the metros must be disproportionately Republican.
Are we comparing GA versus SC or is GA more similar to NC or AL? The link you shared is also from 2008 and it's April 2015.
Are we comparing GA versus SC or is GA more similar to NC or AL?
You missed the point. If we're talking about "Georgia outside of metro Atlanta," then there has got to be a lot of Georgia that is very similar to Alabama politically for the non-Hispanic White vote to be more Republican than it is in South Carolina. Either Whites vote more uniformly across the state including metro Atlanta (unlikely) or the White vote outside of Atlanta is so heavily Republican that it skews the overall White vote to the right. Which one is it? I'm fairly confident that metro Atlanta is more liberal than Greenville-Spartanburg.
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The link you shared is also from 2008 and it's April 2015.
You should be surprised that it was more conservative than Alabama in any respect during any year.
Geography, college football, Civil Rights history, similar histories for their largest cities, etc. were some of the other points mentioned.
I can see it going either way in this discussion honestly.
Hw is that so?There was no strong comparison to Civil Rights between GA and AL ade.
What similar histories of the cities in GA were mentioned that did not also have similaries with cities in NC?
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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You missed the point. If we're talking about "Georgia outside of metro Atlanta," then there has got to be a lot of Georgia that is very similar to Alabama politically for the non-Hispanic White vote to be more Republican than it is in South Carolina. Either Whites vote more uniformly across the state including metro Atlanta (unlikely) or the White vote outside of Atlanta is so heavily Republican that it skews the overall White vote to the right. Which one is it? I'm fairly confident that metro Atlanta is more liberal than Greenville-Spartanburg.
You should be surprised that it was more conservative than Alabama in any respect during any year.
That's not exactly helping your case. Besides, asking someone if they are "conservative" or "liberal" doesn't tell you much about their ideology. A "liberal" living in inner city Boston is not the same as a "liberal" living in rural Georgia. The ANES is a good gauge because it drills down into specific issues.
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