Which one is more Diverse- The Tri-State Metropolitan Area or The San Francisco Bay Area? (Boston, skyscrapers)

[Nineties Flava]

In terms of languages spoken the bay area and the tristate area are likely about equal...

in terms of religion I don't know. I have a feeling that NY might be more religiously diverse but I don't know enough about the subject to even make an educated guess...

[Nineties Flava]

Originally Posted by krudmonk

Diversity is still impossible to quantify.

In what way? Obviously everybody's different but in certain ways it's very possible to quantify

[krudmonk]

Originally Posted by Nineties Flava

In what way? Obviously everybody's different but in certain ways it's very possible to quantify

Distinguishing different from same is largely subjective.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by eek

race =/= ethnicity, tho.

white (for example) in ny can mean:

from the czech republic, russia, england, ireland, spain, south africa, canada, puerto rico, argentina, etc.

black can mean:

honduras, jamaica, haiti, zimbabwe, dominican republic, ivory coast, etc.

hispanic can mean any spanish speaking country regardless of race but some ppl consider hispanic to be a race even tho its not, etc. etc.

That's fine, but the Bay Area also has a higher percentage of foreign born residents as well.

Foreign Born Residents, 2008
New York-Newark-Bridgeport, NY-NJ-CT-PA 5,774,910...26.0% of the total population
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 2,159,194...29.3% of the total population


Also, in 2000, fairus.org put together a stat called "Immigrant Stock"...meaning the total population of Immigrants and their US-born Children.

Immigrant Stock, 2000
New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island 8,451,000...41.4% of the total population
San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose 3,390,000...47.7% of the total population

[18Montclair]

20 Most Diverse Counties in the US, 2000 Claritas
1 Queens, NY
2 Alameda, CA(Oakland)
3 Kings, NY(Brooklyn)
4 Robeson, NC
5 Fort Bend, TX(Suburban Houston)
6 Hudson, NJ
7 New York, NY(Manhattan)
8 Harris, TX
9 Los Angeles, CA
10 Dallas, TX
11 San Francisco, CA
12 Solano, CA
13 Santa Clara, CA
14 Cook, IL
15 Essex, NJ(Newark)
16 San Joaquin, CA
17 Bronx, NY
18 San Mateo, CA
19 San Bernardino, CA
20 Fresno, CA

Claritas Study Ranks Racial/Ethnic Diversity in Counties Nationwide; Analysis Shows California Leads Nation In Diversity Among Counties Of 100,000-Plus Population | Business Wire | Find Articles at BNET

New York 6
San Francisco 5

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Nineties Flava

In what way? Obviously everybody's different but in certain ways it's very possible to quantify

Yes and in those quantifiable measures, the Bay Area is a diversity beast that hangs with any place any time.

[18Montclair]

Birthplace of Foreign Born Population, 2008

New York-Newark-Bridgeport
Europe 18.8%
Asia 26.3%
Latin America 49.7%
Canada 0.9%
Africa 3.8%
Oceania 0.2%

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
Europe 10.0%
Asia 51.6%
Latin America 33.6%
Canada 1.6%
Africa 1.6%
Oceania 1.2%

[18Montclair]

Here's a map of Biodiversity.(LOL)

the nation's six "biological hot spots," which means it has many rare species, and many of these rare species are found only in small areas. (The other five areas are Hawaii, the southern Appalachians, the San Francisco Bay area, the Death Valley region, and southern California.) Here's our tally:

ARROW - Apalachicola Region Resources On the Web - Almanac Biology Index

[Lifeshadower]

Originally Posted by krudmonk

Distinguishing different from same is largely subjective.

I agree, and that's why the topic of diversity usually gets extremely heated. A few months ago, I posted an analysis of the most US census defined racially diverse metropolitan areas, and people were STILL trying to argue as something as basic as math. It makes no sense, really.

In real life however, the Bay Area and the Tri-State area aren't really separated by a HUGE GULF of 'diversity' on any level. I really do appreciate the fact on this thread that no one has tried to claim that one area is not diverse on any level (but I'm sure someone will as time goes on), but rather use data or pictures to show which area has more 'diversity'.

Anyways, here's a thing about linguistic diversity that Rhymes with Best Coast used in a thread some time ago.

http://www.usefoundation.org/userdat...ted_states.pdf

Most Linguistically Diverse Counties

New York Area (10 counties out of the top 50. Tri-State Region has 27 counties []Error, meaning that 37% of the Tri-State Area has counties that speak more than 75 languages)
6. Queens- 105
11. Kings- 96
11. New York (Manhattan): 96
25. Middlesex, NJ: 84
34. Bergen, NJ: 80
35. Westchester, NY: 79
40. Nassau, NY: 78
41. Bronx, NY: 77
47. Essex, NJ: 75
47. Suffolk, NY: 75

San Francisco Bay Area (5 out of the Top 50. The San Francisco Bay Area has 9 counties []Error, meaning that 55% of the Bay Area has counties speaking more than 75 languages)
7. Santa Clara: 104
8. Alameda: 101
14. San Francisco: 94
30. San Mateo: 83
31. Contra Costa: 82

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Here's a map of Biodiversity.(LOL)




ARROW - Apalachicola Region Resources On the Web - Almanac Biology Index

Yeah, many a time in the Bay Area have I seen Palm Trees, Oak Trees, and Redwood Trees grow right next to each other. It's kind of weird, really. It's awesome that the Bay Area has a climate that can support all three of these trees simultaneously.

[BayAreaNightmare]

whats funny is when new yorkers have some people from some tiny little island countries like DR and PR and other west indian places that no one cares about and then they brag about diversity ...yet they usually group "asians" all together like viets, chinese,thai, cambodian etc...