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Old 02-20-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Okay,

Here is where I'm coming from. I have a master's in Education, and I'm 28 years old. I'm finding from the little taste that I've gotten of it that I love science and technology, and programming is easier than I thought it was. I would like to learn everything I can about programming, even though I may only use it for my own uses or to help further my teaching job prospects.

Now, please recommend me every user-friendly book on programming you can think of. I do want to start learning this.
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:18 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Perhaps think of a project or direction first... Then decide the tools necessary to achieve...

The tools one needs to work in IT is a bit different from computer programming. Both of which are very diverse fields.

My career got derailed at age 32. Although I was in development, it was a niche area which left me no where to go after layoffs. I found my way back into software development through IT, followed by Support and through QA. It took over 10 years but I did it. I'm now working 100% in development. For IT, certifications are a must... at least in my experience. Domain knowledge and communication skills also helped me.

Perhaps you can combine what you eventually learn in technology and apply it to education. Given you have a masters in Education, that gives you a distinct advantage in the public school system.. in pay and benefits.
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Old 02-20-2015, 01:27 PM
 
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Since you have an education background, your other option is to research opportunities as a corporate trainer. And you can 'weave' a tech concentration into that. e.g. look for places that are hiring trainers. Then see if you can do software/application training down the road.
This is a good thing to try...

I also noticed a few educational majors who pick up a good foundation of technology also have worked their way into sales positions at technology corporations.
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Old 02-20-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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Perhaps think of a project or direction first... Then decide the tools necessary to achieve...

The tools one needs to work in IT is a bit different from computer programming. Both of which are very diverse fields.

My career got derailed at age 32. Although I was in development, it was a niche area which left me no where to go after layoffs. I found my way back into software development through IT, followed by Support and through QA. It took over 10 years but I did it. I'm now working 100% in development. For IT, certifications are a must... at least in my experience. Domain knowledge and communication skills also helped me.

Perhaps you can combine what you eventually learn in technology and apply it to education. Given you have a masters in Education, that gives you a distinct advantage in the public school system.. in pay and benefits.

Okay, could you recommend a few books and resources that could get me started on a project to begin training myself?
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Old 02-20-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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Okay, could you recommend a few books and resources that could get me started on a project to begin training myself?
no matter what books you read, the reality is that there 10,000s of students in head of you who have degrees and certifications and are still looking for entry level jobs. You want a direction? Learn Oracle. Get 100% certified in every level so you are in head of India/China. Get an entry level position and get experience while getting re-certified every year. Job hop until you get to the payscale you want to be at and be mobile to move anywhere on the planet. That's reality.
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:50 PM
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OP - you got plenty of advice on this previous thread:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/inter...ogramming.html
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Old 02-22-2015, 02:43 AM
 
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Because web programmers who develop with JSP, ASP, PHP are not real web developers, they are fake web developers... Let's just call em amateurs compared to HTML and CCS "developers".

SQL Server DBA's is yet another class of amateurs compared to people who know basics of NoSQL

ASP developers are simply old people near retirement who are to lazy to learn the "real web development tools" such as HTML5.

We do use java script in various flavors, but a scripting language does not a programmer make ! We enhance programs that run on popular browsers with java script.

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To become a software developer people go to college, that's where they learn about compilers, data structures, variables and scopes, event driven and OO programming, and then they take advanced programming classes from that point on.
That is why I am saying that one should learn real programming language, not a scripting one. Something that will give you fundamentals. Programming technologies always change, it's the ability to adopt that makes a good Software person.

Those fundamentals need to be there, otherwise one might go into graphic design with all that ccs knowledge .
None of this post makes sense. Are you even familiar with web development?

You can't compare HTML5 to ASP. They are two completely different things. Additionally, HTML5 is heavily based on JavaScript, which you previously referred to as not being real web development... How can HTML5 be real web development if JavaScript is not real web development?

CSS is not graphics design.
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:52 AM
 
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ASP developers are simply old people near retirement who are to lazy to learn the "real web development tools" such as HTML5.
What does this even mean? Do you know what HTML5 is?
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Old 10-07-2015, 08:46 PM
 
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if you are already know javascript you might consider just going to node.js

one of the strengths of node.js is that javascript developers can leverage some of their existing knowledge.

if you really want to get down and learn and other framwork.

pick one of those poison Asp.net/C#, PHP, JSF/JSP,Ruby on Rails.
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