[BPt111]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

How are California, Oregon and Washington doing poorly? How is Colorado not considered a state with progressive-leaning policies?

I think there are some general issues that underline a lot of the Upper Midwest and Northeast. Some of it has to do with them being older legacy cities that built infrastructure (buildings, roads, transit, utilities, etc.) that have been nearing their last legs for a while so upkeep and replacement, with the large population and density already in store, is prohibitively expensive for many municipalities. The other is that the balkanization into many small municipalities has meant a lot of inefficiencies of government and services along with odd infighting that doesn't help the larger region.

Colorado is booming 10,000-15,000 new residents a month moving there every licence state there is out of state plate there handful of CT residents moving to Denver area. I take California over CT any day you got San Diego, Los Angeles, Bay area, Northern Cali, Central Cali. I heard Oregon is nice too

[RunD1987]

My only gripe is the Weather, high housing cost, and traffic in the State. 2 of these can be fixed moving East and the weather is just making do with it.

[East of the River]

Originally Posted by Sigequinox

Negative. Healthy and steadily growing economies do not equate to more taxes Jay, in fact it provides them the money they need to improve state without raising taxes. It's inconsistent, counterproductive and/or meaningless economic and state policy that leads to rising taxes.

In fact, amid rapid growth of Nashville economy, TN has ELIMINATED some taxes (death tax and interest earnings) all the while providing MORE services and increasing QOL. WTF? Is it another planet? The anti universe? Literally the opposite of what happens in CT. They even scribed into LAW that the state income tax can NEVER be implemented. To protect the future against economy sucking liberals. Now THAT was smart. As they become more desirable, they observe what has happened elsewhere, and proactively avoid the North Carolina effect where every NY and NJ transplant can't come and obliterate the antic of what made them desirable in the first place. Smart. How clairvoyant for a place so uneducated...

The real death of the south (other than their glutinous consumption of fried foods) would be an insurrection of the neo-left . Taxes will only spiral out of control if/when people from Cali and the northeast take over government and declare TN spend all their money on the trailer trash meth heads in Appalachia, or the heroin dealers and criminal scum in Memphis, or become a sanctuary state for tens of thousands of refugees who despise them and serve as cultural ichonoclasts to all that they stand for...that will be what raises their taxes. Caring more about the disenfranchised underclass of scam artists and underachievers than they do the productive working class that made them successful in the first place...

TN relies fairly heavily on federal grants and subsidies as their economy improves those will be pulled back as that happens the normal course is for taxes to increase. The other option is to cut services but as seen last week in Kansas that has it's own set of issues.

[Henry10]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

The other is that the balkanization into many small municipalities has meant a lot of inefficiencies of government and services along with odd infighting that doesn't help the larger region.

Centralizing Gov power into the hands of fewer left-wing politicians or bureaucrats -- now that's a solution to CT's economic woes.

[Henry10]

Originally Posted by East of the River

TN relies fairly heavily on federal grants and subsidies as their economy improves those will be pulled back as that happens the normal course is for taxes to increase. The other option is to cut services but as seen last week in Kansas that has it's own set of issues.

Here is the map that everybody talks about (giver or taker States):




Here is the Moocher Index from another source:



https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.co...moocher-index/

Believe what you will...

[ayoskillz]

Originally Posted by Henry10

Here is the map that everybody talks about (giver or taker States):




Here is the Moocher Index from another source:



https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.co...moocher-index/

Believe what you will...

I wonder how they determine which states get more money

[Henry10]

Originally Posted by ayoskillz

I wonder how they determine which states get more money

Who is "they?" Tax Foundation, Mitchell or the Feds?

[ayoskillz]

Originally Posted by Henry10

Who is "they?" Tax Foundation, Mitchell or the Feds?

Tax foundation

[BPt111]

Originally Posted by ayoskillz

I wonder how they determine which states get more money

"Each state's mix of federal spending matters in how it advocates for its interests in Congress, a reality more critical during times of budget cuts or other disruptions in Washington — like concern over sequestration and the federal government shutdown last fall."


"Some states get more federal dollars in certain categories thanks to simple demographics. Florida, for example, gets the second-highest dollar amount of retirement benefits, behind only California. Others owe their advantage to economic realities: The top five states in contracts, for example, are government- and defense-heavy Virginia, California, Texas, Maryland and the District."


How Are Federal Dollars Divided Among States?

[East of the River]

Originally Posted by Henry10

Here is the map that everybody talks about (giver or taker States):




Here is the Moocher Index from another source:



https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.co...moocher-index/

Believe what you will...

Those are two very different things.

The first show how much money a state receives from the feds the other shows how many people above the federal poverty line get some form of public assistance.

In the first case you basically have wealthy states supporting poor states in a massive wealth transfer thanks to federal taxes. Basically in this example Tenn is Hartford and Conn is Farmington, the taxes from income from one supports the people in the other.

In the other chart you show how much a state spends on support above the poverty level. In the case of CT, most of that additional spending is covered by in state taxes. So kind of like if Farmington voting to spend more on more nutritious lunch in schools and expanding free lunch above state minimum. The choice do to so was with in the town and would be done by reps voted for by it's citizens.