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Do you have a daughter to protect ? I think if you did you would understand. Try telling anyone with a daughter that it should be okay for strange men to be in the same bathroom with her and see how far you get.
Yes, I have a daughter. She knows how to close stall doors too. It is a really easy thing to teach a child "close the door, and lock it"
Really? So why are florist, baker and photographer's rights to religious freedom and rights to earn a living being determined as a result of special treatment for homosexuals?
Religious freedom does not extend to taking away the rights of others, even if your religion calls for it.
It's really not that difficult to comprehend. The only conclusion I can draw is that people such as yourself choose to pretend not to comprehend.
And yet again, LGBT people are not asking for special treatment, they are asking for equal protections under the law, as promised in the Constitution.
Gawd I am so tired of all this gay, lesibian, race, religion, transgender, and pot rights! etc!!
Some people are so self absorbed.
Quit taking up time with legislation and laws for more important issues.
And quit wasting tax payers money.
All for the sake of yourself or your group.
Agreed! -- Absolutely!
But the point here is that we have a fight between the Religious Right, some of whom are still convinced that LGBT's "recruit" -- and are out to corrupt their children (nonsense!), and a new strain of Left-leaning militancy; one more group out to become a priveleged class enjoying the "protection" of the law from a market system which tends to "weed them out" and hold them back (although nowhere near so much as was the case years ago).
In this process, the biggest loser is the American taxpayer, who simply wants to keep more of what he/she earns and not to be drawn into a struggle that makes the workplace seem more like a junior high school classroom every day.
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And yet again, LGBT people are not asking for special treatment, they are asking for equal protections under the law, as promised in the Constitution.
Please don't insult our intelligence! They are asking for their own place within the Pantheon of the Politically Correct, from which they can advance their agenda at the expense of the conservatives -- whom they despise and try every day to depict as little more than a collection of provincials,
I am a conservative, but with libertarian, rather than "traditionalist" beliefs -- based on empirical reason, rather than religious or nationalistic absolutes. As such, I view sexual orientation, like religious belief, as a purely private matter. My suspicions toward the so-called "progressives" crazy-quit collection of single issues is no stronger, and no weaker, that my suspicion of Bible-thumpers and fig-leaf hangers. Both sides rely heavily on stereotyping, oversimplification, and an appeal to emotion, rather than thinking -- and that usually gets those caught in the middle hurt the most.
A pox on both your houses!
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Religious freedom does not extend to taking away the rights of others, even if your religion calls for it.
It's really not that difficult to comprehend. The only conclusion I can draw is that people such as yourself choose to pretend not to comprehend.
And yet again, LGBT people are not asking for special treatment, they are asking for equal protections under the law, as promised in the Constitution.
No one is taking rights away from anyone. Refusing to provide creative services to an event that your faith informs you is a moral abominations does not take the rights of a gay couple from walking across the street and engaging the services of another vendor.
No, they are seeking the special treatment of seeking protection because of their sexual attraction, not because they are being treated differently than another man/woman.
Exactly. If gays really were honest about this being about "being with the one I love," they would not use the force of the state to destroy family businesses over cakes and flowers. And everyone pretty much knows that.
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