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Old 10-03-2015, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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Gun free zones will work if they are enforced for everybody. Commercial passenger jets and airport terminals as we know are highly secured. As a result we don't have shootings taking place there.

We're going to have to accept a new world full of metal detectors, surveillance cameras, security guards, and more. But hey, that opens up a world of new jobs. With modern network technology and smartphones, you could have a couple of security guards covering a large area. They could monitor metal detectors and cameras with a smartphone app, stuff like that. It could be done cost efficiently I think.
THIS.

And the problem is guns. Gun free zones are also massacre free zones.
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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THIS.

And the problem is guns. Gun free zones are also massacre free zones.

I declared my yard a "fire ant free zone," but with little success.
Gun free zones are where all these incidents occur.
Did you miss that?
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Old 10-03-2015, 01:55 AM
 
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I disagree with the "somewhat desirable" part. Many of these guys could have girls if they stayed with girls who are at the same level of attractiveness/social skills as they are. But they want the "Stacies" as they say, the cheerleaders and other hot girls at school. This is the real problem.
Let me clarify.. sometimes you want the ones just like you like in my case. I don't chase the 10s all the time and try to find the ones like me and message them and I still don't get any luck.. why is that? What can be the reason for someone tall, overall good looking to not get any at all even the ones he looks for that he feels are like himself? Are girls soft these days? It must be. They may be too into what the media tells them and I don't fit that popular man that's the media stereotype that many go after themselves. Something just seems wrong. I moved to a metro area with a good amount of singles and still feel I can't get anywhere here. I talk to one girl but she lives an hr away. I just don't get it at all though.
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Old 10-03-2015, 02:00 AM
 
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Due to our society's focus on short term sexual qualifications over long term partnership qualifications we have a much larger subculture of "lost boys" than we used to have in the past and we have not yet learned how to deal with these people. Until we do, we are going to see more of this sort of thing. Remember, 40 years ago gun laws were more lax than they are today and we didn't see this sort of thing nearly as often. New gun laws may or may not stop these things from happening in the future(I tend to think not) but it will not get to the root of the problem that is causing the shootings to happen in the first place.

When we decided to completely do away with our traditional morals and family structure, we were inviting all sorts of unintended consequences that we simply did not want to deal with and this is one of them. These people we reject for no longer having a place in the new society don't just go away. They fester, they hurt, they congregate in the underbelly of the internet and sometimes they lash out. There seems to be a push to substitute an erosion of rights for an attempt at finding a solution to the problem. We'll see how that works out.
You describe me well. I am not the most awkward dork yet I feel like one because I feel alienated by society a lot plus I don't really like going to bars much anymore as I get older especially to get drunk. I'd rather spend that time home on the internet commenting on youtube or other areas. I just feel society is hopeless. I am 35, a late bloomer, moved out of my parents house less than a yr ago. I have felt lots of hurt and I am from the lost generation, the Nintendo generation on the cusp of the millennials. I didn't have the internet as a kid, I got it much later but when I did, it became an addiction because I kind of felt like a social outcast anyhow, even before the internet. I am tall, overall good looking but girls don't seem to see me as attractive and if they do, they never tell me. I seem intimidating to most actually. Its ****ing sick that a lot of us can be adults and this can still feel like high school just without the open cruelty. I'm not going to shoot anyone up but my god it has to get better.
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Old 10-03-2015, 02:13 AM
 
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I have sat down at a PC at my local library to search for a name of a particular book. Absolutely nothing was required of me to do so.

Some urban and suburban libraries with reasonably close proximity to church or community shelters are full of homeless people during the day, especially during the winter. More than half are visibly disturbed. It does not stop them from hogging the pcs and we are not talking job sites, here. Libraries everywhere are being challenged by patrons who use their internet to access porn and hate websites/ forums. Nothing quite like watching some guy fondling himself over porn in a public library.
LOL wow its gotten bad. This is so terrible its funny.
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Old 10-03-2015, 03:57 AM
 
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If you're not getting what you want, lower your "standards" in terms of looks and other such superficial things that generally don't last anyway.

And if you can't do that, then you don't really want (or at any rate, wouldn't be able to handle, and would be taken advantage of by) what you think you want anyway.

In that case, try reading a good book. Develop your mind and talents. Pursue other interests. It will make you more interesting, and make your life more satisfying.

The world offers a lot of things besides getting the "hot girl/hot boy."

And people are rightly turned off by desperation.

Of course, there's the odd chance that you'll get the "hottie" even if you think that yourself are not "all that."

But generally, people look for what they consider to be their equals or betters.

Chill out, back off, and socialize in a way that doesn't offend others (be thoughtful), and you might be surprised how much people like you because you are a fully developed person.

Even if they don't, it's their loss, not yours. Life is not about your "getting some."

This lesson in living and social skills brought to you from the pre-internet age.
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Old 10-03-2015, 04:15 AM
 
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I think the thing that stands out as different to me now versus decades past is that now there seems to be a sense of entitlement held by young men that they all deserve a super hot girl and easy sex, and if they're denied that then somehow they're getting shafted by life. I do not remember this attitude being so on display previously, this anger at the world for not delivering Victoria's Secret models to their doors.
Looking back on it, I don't think the sense of entitlement was there either. I think the frustration and resentment were there though. At the same time, there was more optimism. This generation seems to back itself into a corner with a lot of things.
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Old 10-03-2015, 04:27 AM
 
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You describe me well. I am not the most awkward dork yet I feel like one because I feel alienated by society a lot plus I don't really like going to bars much anymore as I get older especially to get drunk. I'd rather spend that time home on the internet commenting on youtube or other areas. I just feel society is hopeless. I am 35, a late bloomer, moved out of my parents house less than a yr ago. I have felt lots of hurt and I am from the lost generation, the Nintendo generation on the cusp of the millennials. I didn't have the internet as a kid, I got it much later but when I did, it became an addiction because I kind of felt like a social outcast anyhow, even before the internet. I am tall, overall good looking but girls don't seem to see me as attractive and if they do, they never tell me. I seem intimidating to most actually. Its ****ing sick that a lot of us can be adults and this can still feel like high school just without the open cruelty. I'm not going to shoot anyone up but my god it has to get better.

I can sympathize with you as I have 2 sons in their 30's who are still single and have a hard time meeting people. They are intelligent and I think good looking and have excellent morals and ethics but I think it's hard to meet others these days if you don't want to go the route of a dating site. Neither are into the bar scene and most of their friends are married.

They have both had relationships in the past and none of the girls were the "cheerleader type" except one who swore like a drunken sailor but things just didn't work out. There were more personal problems on the girl's side that made commitments hard.

My cousin's daughter, married and divorced with an 8 yr old child, also has not had any luck on the dating scene. She's 35 and shy.

When you're younger, you're in more situations - school, bars ect that are more relaxed and offer the time to meet people. These days - everyone has their own schedules set in stone - so even if you join say a health club - I think your chances of meeting someone are reduced as people come there with a set goal - work out, shower - off to work.

My one son relocated 2 yrs ago - so it's been even harder when he's working 7 day weeks sometimes 7-6 to meet anyone. He's friends with a few married guys but it broke my heart when he went to the movies by himself on his birthday.

Those of us who got married in their 20's, really never experienced how tough it could be to meet people once we got older.
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Old 10-03-2015, 05:06 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Christian Lives Don't Matter, apparently.
Maybe Christians should organize riots based upon the recent events in Oregon. I don't know what those riots would look like though.
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Old 10-03-2015, 05:11 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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The school was not a gun- free zone.

Imagine that.
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Colleges in Oregon are not gun- free zones.
Was this shooter going to honor the gun-free nature of such a zone?
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