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Old 01-17-2016, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Here and There
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Has to be Florida.
Right?!! It's always Florida. Actually surprised it was NJ!
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Old 01-17-2016, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Denver
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There are worse people like this in the world.

Father kills 4 children to marry With His girlfriend

These need to be buried alive.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Nope, fortunately not here in my state. It was in NJ.
I apologize to all the good people of Florida.
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Old 01-17-2016, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Groveland, FL
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I apologize to all the good people of Florida.
Thanks

For the record, I am originally from SoCal. Hubby is from NH like you.
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Old 01-19-2016, 05:02 PM
 
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Why is this the girlfriend's fault? Sure, she doesn't sound like a pleasant person, but she made it clear from the beginning that she wasn't into having a relationship that involved children. I didn't realize his inability to follow the law should result in her having to be punished along with him.
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LOVE that people are finding some way to blame the 17 year old girl in this. Brilliant.
Exactly! Is it a crime to not want to be in a relationship where there are children, now?
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Bad Gene pool
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Old 01-20-2016, 06:03 PM
 
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I hear you, but does it matter what age the girl was?
He'd be just as sick (assuming he did it) whether the woman was 7, 17, 77, or anything in between.
Wow, wow, don't get carried away there. . . . 7 is pretty sick and 77 is say wut? 17 sounds perfectly reasonable when you put it that way.

Mick
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Old 01-26-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I don't think this is the case here. This 22 year old man didn't just want sex, he was (or thought he was) in love with this girl...it was terror that he was losing her that led him to do this. The night he killled the child he was in a jealous rage thinking she was with another guy at her college. He was only 19 when he had the child, and was most likely not a mature and responsible person then, either. This is a reprehensible crime committed by a young man who had a baby he wasn't ready for, was too insecure to handle having a 17 year old gf who was away at college, needed her or felt he needed her too much, and he did a horrible, awful, unspeakable thing in a moment of crazed, desperate thinking. He needs to be punished severely, but IMO this has nothing to do with sex nor to the messages society sends or doesn't send to men. The wife was young, too, early 20's, this wasn't older man chases young girl scenario, they are all young in this story.
I disagree. This has everything to do with sex, specifically, the unrealistic desire for sex without responsibility. Sex always bears with it responsibility--for the other person's heart, as well as the health of both parties, and the possibility of children.

God rest little Brendan Creato's sweet soul. This case, if the indicted father is found guilty, reminds me a lot of the Scott Peterson case. Peterson clearly wanted sex without responsibility--namely with the massage therapist. He probably didn't want to pay 18 years of child support and didn't think he could get sex easily if he was perceived as a guy who abandoned and divorced his pregnant wife. Divorce and let them live was the better option, and he chose murder. He chose his ego, selfish love of money, and the desire for sex without responsibility over the lives of two innocent human beings.

This is why marriage is a public good and therefore makes good public policy. Sex is not free of responsibility. This is what we should be teaching our young men and women. If Creato had married Brendan's mother, though they both were young, he would not have been in the dating pool and Brendan would be alive today.

The news is littered with stories of murdered toddlers, and marriage between the parents appears markedly absent in these scenarios.
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Old 01-26-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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I disagree. This has everything to do with sex, specifically, the unrealistic desire for sex without responsibility. Sex always bears with it responsibility--for the other person's heart, as well as the health of both parties, and the possibility of children.

God rest little Brendan Creato's sweet soul. This case, if the indicted father is found guilty, reminds me a lot of the Scott Peterson case. Peterson clearly wanted sex without responsibility--namely with the massage therapist. He probably didn't want to pay 18 years of child support and didn't think he could get sex easily if he was perceived as a guy who abandoned and divorced his pregnant wife. Divorce and let them live was the better option, and he chose murder. He chose his ego, selfish love of money, and the desire for sex without responsibility over the lives of two innocent human beings.

This is why marriage is a public good and therefore makes good public policy. Sex is not free of responsibility. This is what we should be teaching our young men and women. If Creato had married Brendan's mother, though they both were young, he would not have been in the dating pool and Brendan would be alive today.

The news is littered with stories of murdered toddlers, and marriage between the parents appears markedly absent in these scenarios.
I understand that, but again this was jealousy and fear of losing her that triggered this IMO, not sex. The poster that was in response to made it sound like the guy left some 20 year old marriage to screw a teenager, when it was not the case, it was a young man thinking he was in love with this young woman and was losing her to the guy at her college she kept posting about. YES he was irresponsible, he had this child at 19. He and his ex were both irresponsible and had a child too young. I'm not excusing him, but a marriage of teenagers surviving is slim already, add a baby and this was almost inevitable statistically. Yes I think he is irresponsible, yes I think he should spend his life in jail, yes he and this girl are both shallow, horrible people...but this is not about some over-sexualized world of today, or from porn, or anything like that. Jealous, stupid acts in the name of "love" have been going on forever.
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Old 01-26-2016, 02:56 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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How does a father do that to their son.. and because of some teen girl he just met recently online? Yes, WHY would it need to be killing the child.. just give him to child services or family. I just dont understand people like him.. I sure hope he gets the max penalty if he did it. So sad to think what the poor child went through.. especially to have it done by your father!
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