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According the World Health Organization there is NO CAUSAL LINK BETWEEN ZIKA AND MICROCEPHALY.
"The link between the mosquito-borne virus and birth defects has not been scientifically proven, WHO Director-General Margaret Chan said in a press conference ..."
So what random scientist said there was a link? How many years was he/she studying the link between the two? What studies were published that prove there IS a link?
None. But let's all panic and be terrified and fear for our lives. Zika has been around for DECADES. There have been hundreds of cases over the years in Florida. So why is everyone freaking out today> Because the news told us to. That is the ONLY reason.
Yeah, my snowbirds neighbors next door not only have children in their 60's, they have Grandkids in their 40's, GREAT-Grandkids in their 20's, and GREAT-GREAT-Grandkids in their Toddler years. Just imagine all the younger generations THEY could infect!!!! I am sure they, and many others, are not going to cancel their Winter Season in Florida in the home that they own here; AND invite their younger family members to come visit.
Go do a Google search. Pew research. 77% of Americans are not worried about Zika. JUST Me? While one can never know how many people are wearing DEET, they certainly aren't walking around wearing long pants and long sleeves in Florida's Summer Heat doing what the almighty CDC SAYS to do. Only people doing that are the Mosquito Sprayers, and they are also wearing masks with breathing apparatus.
So anyone who ever gets a mosquito bite in Florida, better RUN and tested, according to Suzy. Hope you have $200/$300 to pay for that test because it's not covered by your insurance, but you MUST do everything you can to protect others.
Suzy, actually, I like your posts. They are very funny and very irrational.
Like Naples is the only city? - if anything Florida is no longer the snow bird paradise it once was - most travelers now of all ages-specially in the summer months- but as Gma of a special needs child-- PREVENT what you can!
"The World Health Organization has declared an international health emergency over the spread of the Zika virus, now known to cause devastating birth defects. The agency expects the virus to spread from northern Argentina to the southern United States by the end of the year, infecting many millions of people. In late July, Florida officials announced what appeared to be the first locally transmitted cases of Zika infection in the continental United States." - NYT
..and
" CNN - The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued an unprecedented travel warning Monday, advising pregnant women and their partners not to travel to a small community just north of downtown Miami, where Zika is actively circulating. This is the first time the CDC has warned people not to travel to an American neighborhood for fear of catching an infectious disease, according to agency spokesman..."
...plus
"Researchers at Northeastern University say federal-health officials are likely vastly undercounting Zika in the United States. In a paper that’s still under review for journal publication, they describe computer modeling that suggests there were nearly 30,000 cases of travel-related Zika in the country in mid-June, about 25 times more cases than the 1,200 or so reported by the CDC at the time.
Researchers found the undercounting occurred in at least nine states: Florida, California, Texas, Georgia, Illinois, North Carolina, Ohio, Indiana, and Oregon." - Atlantic
Okay, let's look at this logically. Zika has been around for quite some time and it's not been causing hundreds of babies to be born with disfigurements or microcephaly. Even the original article posted states that "Zika causes only a mild and brief illness, at worst." It's only been recently since they started adding Pyriproxyfen to the water that women have been giving birth to these babies.
The only proof they will have that Zika is to blame for the microcephaly is if an infected pregnant woman living in FL (never traveled to Brazil) gives birth to a deformed baby. Otherwise, I wouldn't be so quick to blame Zika for the recent showing of birth defects in Brazil. I see this as a way for the chemical companies to both cover their butts and also to create more profit (via the "we need to use MORE!" mentality).
"'Unlike the relationship between the Zika virus and microcephaly, which has had its confirmation attested in tests that indicated the presence of the virus in samples of blood, tissue and amniotic fluid, the association between the use of pyriproxyfen and microcephaly has no scientific basis,' Brazil's Ministry of Health said in a statement.
Officials also pointed out that some areas that do not use pyriproxyfen have also reported cases of microcephaly."
"Dr. Ian Musgrave, a pharmacologist/toxicologist and Senior Lecturer in the Faculty of Medicine at the School of Medicine Sciences at the University of Adelaide in Australia, called the Argentine group's claim 'not plausible.'
'Pyriproxyfen acts by interfering with the hormonal control growth cycle of insects from hatching, to larvae, to pupa. This hormone control system does not exist in organisms with backbones, such as humans, and pyriproxyfen has very low toxicity in mammals as a result,' he said."
According the World Health Organization there is NO CAUSAL LINK BETWEEN ZIKA AND MICROCEPHALY.
"The link between the mosquito-borne virus and birth defects has not been scientifically proven, WHO Director-General Margaret Chan said in a press conference ..."
So what random scientist said there was a link? How many years was he/she studying the link between the two? What studies were published that prove there IS a link?
None. But let's all panic and be terrified and fear for our lives. Zika has been around for DECADES. There have been hundreds of cases over the years in Florida. So why is everyone freaking out today> Because the news told us to. That is the ONLY reason.
Whatever source you used (which you did not credit, by the way) is way out of date.
"Scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have concluded, after careful review of existing evidence, that Zika virus is a cause of microcephaly and other severe fetal brain defects. In the report published in the New England Journal of Medicine, the CDC authors describe a rigorous weighing of evidence using established scientific criteria.
'This study marks a turning point in the Zika outbreak. It is now clear that the virus causes microcephaly. We are also launching further studies to determine whether children who have microcephaly born to mothers infected by the Zika virus is the tip of the iceberg of what we could see in damaging effects on the brain and other developmental problems,' said Tom Frieden, M.D., M.P.H., director of the CDC. 'We’ve now confirmed what mounting evidence has suggested, affirming our early guidance to pregnant women and their partners to take steps to avoid Zika infection and to health care professionals who are talking to patients every day. We are working to do everything possible to protect the American public.'â€
"'Unlike the relationship between the Zika virus and microcephaly, which has had its confirmation attested in tests that indicated the presence of the virus in samples of blood, tissue and amniotic fluid, the association between the use of pyriproxyfen and microcephaly has no scientific basis,' Brazil's Ministry of Health said in a statement.
Officials also pointed out that some areas that do not use pyriproxyfen have also reported cases of microcephaly."
"Dr. Ian Musgrave, a pharmacologist/toxicologist and Senior Lecturer in the Faculty of Medicine at the School of Medicine Sciences at the University of Adelaide in Australia, called the Argentine group's claim 'not plausible.'
'Pyriproxyfen acts by interfering with the hormonal control growth cycle of insects from hatching, to larvae, to pupa. This hormone control system does not exist in organisms with backbones, such as humans, and pyriproxyfen has very low toxicity in mammals as a result,' he said."
Well, something's going on, and it's not caused by the Zika virus. It has been around for decades and there has not been this large number of women having kids with birth defects. Only a small percentage of those affected by microcephaly tested positive for Zika. But let's keep ignoring stuff like that, shall we?
Like I said, I'll believe that it's the Zika virus if/when an infected pregnant native FL woman who hasn't left the state gives birth to a child with these same problems that are showing up in the children in Brazil.
Well, something's going on, and it's not caused by the Zika virus. It has been around for decades and there has not been this large number of women having kids with birth defects. Only a small percentage of those affected by microcephaly tested positive for Zika. But let's keep ignoring stuff like that, shall we?
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Originally Posted by freedomdove
Like I said, I'll believe that it's the Zika virus if/when an infected pregnant native FL woman who hasn't left the state gives birth to a child with these same problems that are showing up in the children in Brazil.
The virus is being found in children with the birth defect in Brazil.
We do not know whether it was causing birth defects before because no one was looking for it in children with defects.
The virus is being found in children with the birth defect in Brazil.
Yes, but only in a small percentage.
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We do not know whether it was causing birth defects before because no one was looking for it in children with defects.
Um...you really think the doctors down there haven't been running batteries of tests on babies born with those kinds of defects? Lol. Hate to break it to you, but many South American countries have very good medical doctors and technology. I'm going to guess that they've been testing for all sorts of infections in those types of babies. The fact is that the problem has exploded in the last couple years, whereas there weren't that many cases (relatively speaking) in the last several decades. *Something* is going on other than Zika.
Maybe the Pyriproxyfen product contains some other "inert" ingredient that's causing problems. Maybe something's triggering it in the environment. Maybe it really does have something to do with the GM-mosquitoes released down there. Maybe it's not related to mosquitoes at all and has more to do with the chemicals used heavily in their agricultural system down there. Who knows? This huge increase in birth defects cannot be attributed to Zika alone. There's absolutely no evidence indicating that it is. I guess we'll have to wait for that scenario that I've written out a couple times about the pregnant FL woman, eh?
Last edited by freedomdove; 08-04-2016 at 07:57 PM..
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While one can never know how many people are wearing DEET, they certainly aren't walking around wearing long pants and long sleeves in Florida's Summer Heat doing what the almighty CDC SAYS to do. Only people doing that are the Mosquito Sprayers, and they are also wearing masks with breathing apparatus. 
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