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Old 10-03-2019, 07:05 AM
 
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Why do you hate yourself so much? You're also an "idiot homo sapien", are you not? If it weren't for zoos, some species would have died off years ago. You do know that zoos help repopulate animals in the wild also, right?
Your first sentence reeks of unwarranted hostility. You proved my point.

Zoos take more animals away from wild settings than add to them.
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Old 10-03-2019, 07:19 AM
 
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Not only do zoos promote awareness of conservation, they serve to protect critically endangered species.

No zoos? Say goodbye to the California condor. Say goodbye to the Arabian oryx. Say goodbye to the European bison. These species were all saved by zoo breeding programs. Wild tiger populations have fallen by 95% over the last century. Some subspecies are almost gone. The gene pool for these magnificent animals, however, is secure in various zoos. The South China Tiger? It only exists now in zoos. And you want those animals released, where they'll perish due to loss of habitat. That subspecies will then be extinct. But at least you'll feel good about it. Right?

I don't idealize zoos. There are species that do not do well there. When such species are not threatened in the wild, they should not be in zoos. And those that are held in zoos should be done so in proper environments. But the idea that they should be shuttered, that their presentation to the public of the magnificence of wild animals should be ended, that the revenue stream created - much of which is turned back into species protection in a variety of ways - should be turned off, that their breeding programs should be ended (you're not volunteering to pick up all that lost funding, are you?) is nihilistic.

You're not offering a solution to anything. You just want the difficult reality to be turned away from your eyes so you don't have to feel bad about it anymore. Apparently, because it's easier to ignore species quietly going extinct in far off wilds than it is to ignore your local zoo.



I wouldn't want to be torn apart by a pack of hyenas. I wouldn't want to die of exposure after breaking a leg. I would want to waste away from disease. Yet those are typical fates of wild animals. It’s the same with other species you mention that are”saved by zoos.

I wouldn't want to be owned. I wouldn't want to be neutered. I wouldn't want to be trained to sniff out cavaders or assist blind people. So there should be no pets or service animals, right? Your 'logic'.


California condors were almost wiped out by ignorant people, so no one is a hero because they brought them back from near extinction. The same for other species you mention.

I am guessing a wild animal would prefer to take its chances living the life it was meant to live in its natural environment, rather than being locked in a display to be gawked at and trivialized by someone like the fool in the Bronx zoo.

I don’t remember saying a thing about “releasing zoo animals”, those are your words, although they would have better lives in sanctuaries, after zoos are closed.

What do service animals and pets have to do with this? Off topic.

I also said nothing about “offering a solution”. You don’t know me, don’t misquote me, or take my sentences out context.

Done here.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:01 AM
 
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Your first sentence reeks of unwarranted hostility. You proved my point.

Zoos take more animals away from wild settings than add to them.
I don’t think it’s true in this case. Almost every animal you see in the zoo today was born there. There would be many species that are completely gone by now if it were not for zoos. As an aside, their habitats are severely under threat. The wild of now is not the wild of 50 years ago. Are you have to do is watch some YouTube videos of skinny polar bears starving to death walking miles and miles and miles in search of food and not being able to find anything. They will one day be gone too probably except for the ones in zoos.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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Danielle in the lion's den.
God saved her from her
own stupidity.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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What should the sign say?
but what does the Fox say???



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:40 AM
 
Location: equator
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Where is the best place for suicidal people?
Very high, remote cliffs. It might look like an accident.
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Old 10-03-2019, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Way up high
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She should have been eaten. Natural selection at it's best...
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Old 10-03-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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She should have been eaten. Natural selection at it's best...
The lion thought it was a trick and said “No, I’m too smart to fall for this.”
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Old 10-03-2019, 01:45 PM
 
Location: State of Washington (2016)
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Maybe the lion was a on lowfat diet.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:28 PM
 
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The lion is hilarious. Like “ I’m not messing with this fool.”
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