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Old 12-17-2022, 02:27 AM
 
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Really? It's not totally off to suspect the girls on first floor - especially with their response being somewhat abnormal to the situation. Why would you call anyone other than the police immediately upon finding Ethan?
I mean it had to be obvious he was more than just passed out or unresponsive.

I agree ,I think that killer could be was one of those girls that was setting up this crime, by calling all the friends over to blame them.
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Old 12-17-2022, 04:54 AM
 
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A question, why did the police say there was no break in ? and why did a neighbor said he saw the front door was wide open at 8`oclock in the morning.? to me it was a set up by that girl.
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Old 12-17-2022, 07:19 AM
 
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A question, why did the police say there was no break in ? and why did a neighbor said he saw the front door was wide open at 8`oclock in the morning.? to me it was a set up by that girl.
I think it’s not considered a break-in because there was no indication that doors or windows were pried open or broken.
And the door wide open story was reported by the Daily Mail, but the witness who supposedly saw that apparently never reported it to the police, so I take it with a large grain of salt.
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Old 12-17-2022, 10:11 AM
 
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Really? It's not totally off to suspect the girls on first floor - especially with their response being somewhat abnormal to the situation. Why would you call anyone other than the police immediately upon finding Ethan?
I mean it had to be obvious he was more than just passed out or unresponsive.
My comment was based on the repeated attempts to sexualize the murders rather than the far-flung possibility that the downstairs tenants were responsible for them.

We have nothing but second-hand information about the 911 call. But just so you know, 911 staffers don't use words like dead. They use words like unresponsive. We also don't know what those girls saw that caused them to call. The initial story was Ethan's body in a dark hallway and when they called out to him and he didn't wake up, they called his brother.
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Old 12-17-2022, 10:35 AM
 
Location: prescott az
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Just watched a really dumb guy (don't know his name) on U tube, who walked past the frat houses, wasn't able to pronounce the Greek names at all. He wandered into the Arboretum (he couldn't say that word either) and told us how close the crime scene was to all the houses. His cap said "Media" of course but he walked right by a white elantra parked on the street, saying "here is one but probably not the right one" or something.

Anyone can now make videos and proceed to tell the public all about the crime. This is becoming a joke unless LE starts telling the public what is really going on in this case.
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Old 12-17-2022, 10:40 AM
 
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Just watched a really dumb guy (don't know his name) on U tube, who walked past the frat houses, wasn't able to pronounce the Greek names at all. He wandered into the Arboretum (he couldn't say that word either) and told us how close the crime scene was to all the houses. His cap said "Media" of course but he walked right by a white elantra parked on the street, saying "here is one but probably not the right one" or something.

Anyone can now make videos and proceed to tell the public all about the crime. This is becoming a joke unless LE starts telling the public what is really going on in this case.

The YouTube crowd are just grifters trying to capitalize on the public's interest, and they sensationalize their "vlogs" as much as possible.

LE isn't going to compromise the investigation by telling the public the details.

What would help would be if the public knew the difference between legit news sources and YouTube scammers, but here we are. Edit: not talking about you not knowing the difference; you clearly do.

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Old 12-17-2022, 04:25 PM
 
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Really? It's not totally off to suspect the girls on first floor - especially with their response being somewhat abnormal to the situation. Why would you call anyone other than the police immediately upon finding Ethan?
I mean it had to be obvious he was more than just passed out or unresponsive.

We don't know that they saw Ethan or any of the bodies. I think other scenarios are more likely, namely that one girl saw the bodies upstairs, ran down, and fainted from shock, and that's the unconscious person they called about. Or they didn't see the bodies at all if the doors were locked, and were simply unable to get an answer from any of the rooms even though the cars were there. So they started calling friends, and eventually police.

We haven't had any type of confirmation that Ethan was killed outside the room.


I do think it's very far fetched that it was either of the girls on first floor. First of all, why would the other one cover for her? Second, you don't get to 20 and be that popular and successful socially when you're really secretly a psychopath or sociopath, and not have those dark traits noticed. There is not one thing to indicate either of those girls had any kind of serious psychological problems.


Frankly I don't think a girl of that size could have killed all 4 anyway.
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Old 12-17-2022, 08:34 PM
 
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We don't know that they saw Ethan or any of the bodies. I think other scenarios are more likely, namely that one girl saw the bodies upstairs, ran down, and fainted from shock, and that's the unconscious person they called about. Or they didn't see the bodies at all if the doors were locked, and were simply unable to get an answer from any of the rooms even though the cars were there. So they started calling friends, and eventually police.

We haven't had any type of confirmation that Ethan was killed outside the room.


I do think it's very far fetched that it was either of the girls on first floor. First of all, why would the other one cover for her? Second, you don't get to 20 and be that popular and successful socially when you're really secretly a psychopath or sociopath, and not have those dark traits noticed. There is not one thing to indicate either of those girls had any kind of serious psychological problems.


Frankly I don't think a girl of that size could have killed all 4 anyway.
Idk; I think there's something to the Ethan in the hall thing; that particular narrative has shapeshifted once or twice, especially at the beginning. The coroner said that not all of them were in their beds, then walked it back, and then walked it back over again...whatever it was, at least one of those girls saw something.
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Old 12-17-2022, 09:50 PM
 
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Idk; I think there's something to the Ethan in the hall thing; that particular narrative has shapeshifted once or twice, especially at the beginning. The coroner said that not all of them were in their beds, then walked it back, and then walked it back over again...whatever it was, at least one of those girls saw something.
The coroner has said from day one that the kids were attacked when they were sleeping. The coroner later said that not all of the bodies were found in their beds.

I do not find those two statements to be inconsistent. Obviously, they were attacked in bed as they slept and one or more of the victims moved off of the bed(s) during the attacks.
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Old 12-17-2022, 10:01 PM
 
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The coroner has said from day one that the kids were attacked when they were sleeping. The coroner later said that not all of the bodies were found in their beds.

I do not find those two statements to be inconsistent. Obviously, they were attacked in bed as they slept and one or more of the victims moved off of the bed(s) during the attacks.
This is what I was talking about.

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While speaking to NewsNation, Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt said the four victims of Sunday night's quadruple homicide were found in bed at an off-campus residence near the University of Idaho
https://people.com/crime/university-...-coroner-says/

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On Thursday, Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt confirmed that the four victim's of Sunday night's quadruple homicide in Moscow, Idaho were stabbed to death, and now, she says they were all found in bed
She's saying something different here:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/univers...-beds-coroner/


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Of the four University of Idaho students who were found stabbed to death in a rental house last Sunday, some were killed in their beds, the Latah County coroner told CBS News Friday.

Coroner Cathy Mabbutt would not provide any further details. She noted, however, that earlier media reports stating all four victims had been murdered in their beds were not accurate.

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