Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Happy Mother`s Day to all Moms!
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-02-2012, 06:19 PM
 
6,902 posts, read 7,548,634 times
Reputation: 2018

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Icy Tea View Post
I just think its laughable now that Obama has suddenly found religion now that the campaign is getting underway and he's so concerned about the poor. The way he lives, he gives Trump and Romney nothing to feel guilty about.
Tonite on MSNBC Chris Matthews was particularly obnoxious and smarmy with his comments about it. If anybody thought he was serious they'd throw a net over him.

Look make up your mind. Either Obama is a socialist who is buying votes of the poor by flooding them with entitlements or he don't care about the poor. My goodness, positions change more than the second hand on a clock.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-02-2012, 06:23 PM
 
Location: southern california
61,286 posts, read 87,539,736 times
Reputation: 55564
he didnt say neglect the poor he meant stop orbiting around them.
they are not going to carry us into the future, we re going to try and carry them with us, but we gota take care of ourselves too or that is not guna happen.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2012, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
24,620 posts, read 19,211,341 times
Reputation: 21745
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox Terrier View Post
This was my first thought upon hearing his statement...so, you don't want to help the poor better themselves?
I don't give a goddam about the poor.

Why? Because it doesn't matter.

The reason the poor are poor is because they have other priorities, like drinking, drugging, abusing their spouse or children, sexually abusing children, watching TV, mucking off, and generally acting stupid in a No Stupid Zone.

I can't do anything about that, and the difference between you and I is that I am wiser and more intelligent than you, because I recognize, understand and freely admit that I cannot do anything to help them.

Moreover, I'm not about to bankrupt the country and bleed Americans dry throwing money at the poor to get them to do something they blatantly refuse to do themselves.

All of the poor regardless of age qualify for a Pell Grant. That's not a loan, it's free money for education. Every State also has a grant program that gives away free money for education.

If the poor refuse to take advantage of the opportunities offered to them, then what in the Hell am I supposed to do? Do you want me to stick a gun to their head and force them to avail themselves of the many tax-payer and private donor funded GED programs available? And then force them to apply for financial aid and force them to get education or training for a better job?

You want me to hold their hand every single step of their lives? Don't buy those lottery tickets, instead use the money to feed your children. Don't buy that beer, instead use the money to buy shoes and clothes for your children. Don't buy that X-Box game, instead use the money to buy prescription medication. Don't buy waste your money on NetFlix and Cable, instead use the money to pay for advanced training to get a better paying job....etc etc etc.

Sorry, I ain't no Stalin.

Just think, for $10, a brown-bag lunch, a parachute and few gallons of JP-4, you can fly the poor to Somalia on a C-130 and kick their goat-smelling asses out the back of the plane, and then you can stop throwing away money on them and you can use that money for other things that benefit more people, especially those who truly are interested in bettering their lives.

Over the last 10 years, you've spent an average of $92,000 per year per "homeless" person, and yet the same people are still "homeless." If people want to laze around and panhandle for money to buy beer and crack, they can do that in Somalia. Or Western Sahara. Or Myanmar. Or Afghanistan. They don't need to be here.

That's okay. It won't be too much longer before you have to choose between feeding and housing yourself and your family, and feeding and housing the "poor."

Choose wisely...


Mircea
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2012, 06:31 PM
 
6,902 posts, read 7,548,634 times
Reputation: 2018
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mircea View Post
I don't give a goddam about the poor.


The reason the poor are poor is because they have other priorities, like drinking, drugging, abusing their spouse or children, sexually abusing children, watching TV, mucking off, and generally acting stupid in a No Stupid Zone.

Mircea

Wow...because we all know NONE OF THIS EVER NEVER HAPPENs IN THE MIDDLECLASS AND RICH Suburbian households.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2012, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
10,016 posts, read 12,598,104 times
Reputation: 9030
Listen, any guy who made his hundreds of millions by throwing people out of work and destroying good solid American companies while doing so could not care about the poor. He is personally responsible for making many middle class people poor. Companies like Bain are rightly named "Corporate raiders". They buy a business, then borrow money on the business to pay themselves back. They then sell off all the hard assets of the business, like land and buildings. They then pull out with a good profit and leave the company so stripped that it goes down. This is one of the most absolute abuses of the free market system there is and aught to be disallowed.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2012, 07:23 PM
 
30,120 posts, read 18,727,646 times
Reputation: 20964
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Yesterday, Mitt made the following statement:

"I'm not concerned about the very poor," Romney said. "There's a safety net there, and if it needs repair I'll fix it. I'm not concerned about the very rich, they're doing just fine. I'm concerned about the heart of America, the 95% of Americans who are right now struggling."

Romney says ‘poor’ comment needs context – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Romney expressed a valid point...we have a great many safety nets for the very poor...Medicaid, Section 8, Food Stamps, School Lunch program, WIC, etc, etc. He addresses the issue that many, including many here, express concern over. Specifically the vast majority of people that work for a living and are squeezed by expenses, ect, who make too much to get something from the government.

Yet many in the media and on the left (and the less bright of his GOP competition) seize on the "not concerned about the very poor" comment and take it out of context. How weak-minded are these people? Are they unable to comprehend anything beyond one sentence sound bites? Are they unable to comprehend a simple sentence and context?

This has been on NPR for the last two days, as well as other media sources. Get a frickin' life and learn to read, people, you look like idiots.

BTW, I'm NOT a Romney supporter.

The media, of course, is controlled by leftists who will do ANYTHING to get Obama re-elected. Why? They are more concerned with moving toward a socialist regime than they are with actually reporting the news anymore.

The current "media" is just a leftist propaganda unit.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2012, 07:27 PM
 
10,545 posts, read 13,604,003 times
Reputation: 2823
Quote:
Originally Posted by meson View Post
So Romney would fix the net instead of freeing the occupant, would you like to live in a net?
No really but that seems better than the current approach of making the net bigger with the same flaws.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2012, 07:31 PM
 
1,081 posts, read 917,453 times
Reputation: 551
Quote:
Originally Posted by meson View Post
So Romney would fix the net instead of freeing the occupant, would you like to live in a net?
How about the occupant freeing themselves? That's obviously way way over the heads of most libbies, though.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
39,897 posts, read 26,586,483 times
Reputation: 25793
Quote:
Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie View Post
I think Romney is showing himself at not being a well skilled politician. Perhaps he will continue to hurt himself by showing his skill of not thinking before speaking.
Consider his competition (in the general election). Mr. "57 States" doesn't exactly distinguish himself with well thought out comments. Should be an interesting campaign.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-02-2012, 08:30 PM
 
Location: On Top
12,373 posts, read 13,213,550 times
Reputation: 4027
Quote:
Originally Posted by GradyBaaBaa View Post
How about the occupant freeing themselves? That's obviously way way over the heads of most libbies, though.
But it appears Romney wants to keep them there, why else would he fix the net?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:36 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top