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Old 10-23-2012, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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movement in RCP no toss ups(which is the only thing that matters)

New Hampshire romney moves to Obama, increasing Obama EC to 281 from previous 277. Romney decrease from 261 EV to 257 EV's.


chheeea.
Based on a flawed poll which sets Independents at around 20%, when nearly half of the state is Independent. Even the founder of DailyKos called it "S**t".

 
Old 10-23-2012, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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National Poll(PPP)
Romney 49
Obama 47

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...ackingPoll.pdf
That poll ended before last night's debate.
 
Old 10-23-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Wow the Libs are becoming desperate linking an article from Oct 1 pre-first debate? Moving on.
 
Old 10-23-2012, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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That poll ended before last night's debate.
Romney hits 50 in Rasmussen +4 pre-debate

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
 
Old 10-23-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Romney hits 50 in Rasmussen +4 pre-debate

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
Better get you "poll" info out quick! The polls of public opinion will start to be reported pretty soon.
 
Old 10-23-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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state polls edward, not daily trackers.
 
Old 10-23-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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state polls edward, not daily trackers.
The only polls to pay attention to right now are the ones that use traditional methods (humans) and include cell phones. Ras, PPP, Gravis and most of the others we are seeing are junky robo polls that have response rates near zero, use automated voices, don't call cell phones, and use fudge factors to cover up their inherent shortcomings. The media polls like CBS and Fox are better as are some of the smaller polls like University of New Hampshire, Marquette etc. Unfortunately, RCP rates trash polls the same as the quality ones and can give the wrong impression of how things actually are going.
 
Old 10-23-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The only polls to pay attention to right now are the ones that use traditional methods (humans) and include cell phones. Ras, PPP, and most of the others we are seeing are junky robo polls that have response rates near zero, use automated voices, don't call cell phones, and use fudge factors to cover up their inherent shortcomings. The media polls like CBS and Fox are better as are some of the smaller polls like University of New Hampshire, Marquette etc.
Or, you could do as Nate Silver has done, which is to look at all of the polls. Whether you're looking at 538, Huff Post, RCP or TPM, their models all show Obama with a 2 point lead in Ohio.
 
Old 10-23-2012, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Or, you could do as Nate Silver has done, which is to look at all of the polls. Whether you're looking at 538, Huff Post, RCP or TPM, their models all show Obama with a 2 point lead in Ohio.
I see you're still clinging on to Ohio. What happens when that illusion is finally pierced?
 
Old 10-23-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I see you're still clinging on to Ohio. What happens when that illusion is finally pierced?
By three Rasmussen polls issued on the same day? You know, if your boy hadn't told the auto-industry to burn in hell, he wouldn't be in this debacle.
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