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Old 09-26-2015, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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More Blacks with college education than ever.
Anyone can go to college these days. And universities promote diversity/minorities anyway.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Look. Black people, on average, tend to be pretty poor. And live in very impoverished neighborhoods and towns. There are very high rates of single parenthood and teenage pregnancy. I've lived in a neighborhood that had a lot of section 8 housing in it. A good portion of the people who lived in those units, and all public housing units for that matter, were black. All of these things suggest that a lot of black people will want government largesse. Those are just the facts. I don't see the point in denying it.
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Using the words "free stuff" in that way was like a dog whistle term to get fans of Trump's attention. Bush doesn't care if it offends hardworking Democrats if it brings some of Trump's fans over to the Bush camp for a second look and keeps him in the primaries.
Ah, you mention Trump's fans and here a a couple of them to set some of you straight: THEY’RE BACK! Women say ‘Donald Trump gives hope to black lives’ | The American Mirror

I agree with the person posting that Bush was already done. If they nominate him, he is a certain loss but they should be used to loosing after the last two elections.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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Anyone can go to college these days. And universities promote diversity/minorities anyway.
And? Does that refute the fact that Blacks are doing better now than they were in the 1960s? Does it refute that if one wants more Blacks to vote Republican, the Black middle class is a good place to start? Does it refute that the majority of Blacks are not looking for "free stuff" as many Republicans assume that Blacks are looking for?
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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Trump's stock just went way up, he connects with all voters
Like women, and hispanics?
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:54 PM
 
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And? Does that refute the fact that Blacks are doing better now than they were in the 1960s? Does it refute that if one wants more Blacks to vote Republican, the Black middle class is a good place to start? Does it refute that the majority of Blacks are not looking for "free stuff" as many Republicans assume that Blacks are looking for?
Why would it refute it? It just shouldn't be a shock to people that's all.
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Old 09-26-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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Why would it refute it? It just shouldn't be a shock to people that's all.
It would be a shock to those who assume that all Blacks want is "free stuff". In my opinion, you either missed the whole point of my statement, or ignored it.
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Old 09-26-2015, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I can just see backpedalling starting right now. We are giving blacks “free stuff”? Blacks ain’t gonna like that. This is what happens when you try to fake it. First he walks back anchor babies and in the process offends Asians, then he disses multiculturalism right after speaking Spanish and now this. I guarantee they are working on a “clarification” as we speak. Poor Ana Navaro. She has to cover for him once more.

Jeb Bush says Dems lure black voters with 'free stuff' - CNNPolitics.com
Giving away phones, internet, college.....that's all free stuff that hardworking taxpayers pay for - and given (or promised) to Black voters courtesy Dems.
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Old 09-26-2015, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Like women, and hispanics?
Yes, like women and Hispanics:

Trump Holds on to Female Votes--For Now - US News

Eureka! Trump Is Tops among Latino Republicans, Univision Reports


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Giving away phones, internet, college.....that's all free stuff that hardworking taxpayers pay for - and given (or promised) to Black voters courtesy Dems.
Those same benefits and even more go to illegals. Blacks have wised up to what the Dems have been trying and doing in some cases. Free stuff gets you no where in life but just marking time.
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Old 09-26-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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Giving away phones, internet, college.....that's all free stuff that hardworking taxpayers pay for - and given (or promised) to Black voters courtesy Dems.
Except for one thing: Most Blacks aren't asking for that stuff for free. I've noticed some of the videos of Blacks saying "Obama's going to pay my bills". Such persons are small in number compared to the rest of the Black population, and it is most underclass Blacks asking for those things. I don't see any middle class or even working class Blacks asking for such things.
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Old 09-26-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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Those same benefits and even more go to illegals. Blacks have wised up to what the Dems have been trying and doing in some cases. Free stuff gets you no where in life but just marking time.
Except for a few things.

-Most Blacks aren't asking for "free stuff". The persons asking for "free stuff" are the ones who have been living on welfare for years. That trait doesn't fit the majority of Blacks.

-Another thing is this. Explain Black middle class and Black middle upper class people who vote Democrat in large numbers. This argument of Democrats keeping Blacks poor is getting old. The Black middle class has grown substantially since the 1960s. The first Black billionaire was in 1997. More Black millionaires than ever. Black middle class/Black upper middle class people are doing fine.

Why has the underclass stagnated? Why is it that Asians and Jews can vote Democrat and large numbers and still do fine? Why is it that places like Kentucky and West Virginia have voted Republican in Presidential elections but rank at the bottom in terms of economics, education, and health?
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