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View Poll Results: Do You Agree With Trump's Decision to Skip Fox Debate
Yes - MSM is worthless 54 26.21%
No - Trump should participate 33 16.02%
Doesn't matter, He Will Win Election 55 26.70%
Good Riddance 64 31.07%
Voters: 206. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-28-2016, 07:34 AM
 
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That's fine, but then the GOP should step in and boycott the debate (like DNC did to Fox). If he can't build consensus, then he should be Presidential, and fight the good fight in front of him, and make good points and change minds. That's what presidents do, not pout and throw a tantrum.
Pout and throw a tantrum...that's your interpretation of what's going on. The media isn't popular in America...I'll leave a link to Gallup. I suspect Trump and his advisers know it and decided to hell with the nonsense from FOX. It hasn't appeared to hurt his numbers, and it's generated some sympathy with influential right wing bloggers that were previously against Trump.

Fight the good fight is nonsense. Obama never does and he never builds a consensus and the left loves him. This is a fascinating year. I'm beginning to think Trump has bigger cojones than anyone realized. Not only is he taking on the Republican establishment and their broken promises to the American public, he's also taking on their enablers in the MSM.

Americans' Trust in Media Remains at Historical Low

 
Old 01-28-2016, 07:35 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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OK, so a good General, if they knew this was going to happen would be prepared, he wouldn't go away with his tail between his legs.



I agree (and yes, I will apply that to the Democratic Party too!) I deleted the last part, not because I don't agree, but because it's irrelevant. They may not deserve his respect, but if he really wants to SERVE our country, then he's ot to deal with it, at least long enough to get in so he can make changes and fix it. (I still think he's trying to bow out gracefully)
Says who exactly? <bold> I'll tell you, the MSM and politicos say so. How DARE someone not follow the rules of the game as run by THEM.

There's nothing in any law that says a candidate has to attend a useless gathering of tongue waggers over and over and over on demand.

What Trump has done (probably by accident) is to get people thinking about the debate process and how it's gone from a true debate about subjects meaningful to the functioning of our nation to a televised National Enquirer Magazine or Extra TV show.

Hopefully some change will come out of this. It all depends on how/if the sheeple decide to react and if they (the sheeple) decide to demand a real debate.
 
Old 01-28-2016, 07:37 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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What you and many others are missing is the why. Who here believes there's such a thing as the "war on women" other than a another "war on" catch phrase? It has NOTHING to do with a presidential election nor the running of our country.
Given that, Kelly's question is baseless bull squeeze designed to cast a negative view of a candidate and get tongue waggers to go "ooooh". Tabloid at it's best!

Now had she asked him something like "you've said this about taxes,healthcare,abortion or a host of other critical subjects in the past and now you're saying "this", Mr. Trump, how do you reconcile the difference or, which do you really believe?

THAT would have been something proper from a supposed "journalist" at a presidential debate.

Could anyone here imagine questions like are being asked now being asked back in the 50's-60's?
Mr. Kennedy, it is true that you are known to run around with several different women who are not your wife?
How do we know you'll be dedicated to the U.S. and not "run around" on us?
Even right-winger Bill O-Rielly, who is a good friend of Trump's, said last night that Megyn's question was within the boundaries of journalism. Trump is well documented on video for saying nasty things to women so that makes it a fair question because it gets at character and how a person handles people. When Hillary was asked at a debate about the women who accused Bill of abusing them, she answered it straight on without getting in a nasty Twitter war afterward. Trump is too thin-skinned to be president. He's spent his entire life surrounded by yes men and doesn't know how to deal with others he can't fire. He's a big baby when he doesn't get his own way.
 
Old 01-28-2016, 07:45 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Just another in the long line of Trump flipflopping / fence-sitting.
Funny how the Trump supporters ignore this, no matter how often it is posted.
Megyn was a great moderator (to Trumps opinion) until* she asked him about his ramped up misogyny
You do realize the same thing <bold> can and is said about EVERY person from either party running for office right?
How many times in YOUR life have you changed your mind about things, or, do you hold the same views as you did when you were younger?

What one has to remember is that most people don't arrive in the world with the idea that they will become president and should set their ideas in stone from pre-school on.
Nor do most people rise to the top of a billion dollar corporation where you have to make deals with everyone that benefit your corporation(s) and so have to be flexible (to a point) and make others think they've won or got your support.

As I've said before, while I'm not a Trump supporter I think his telling Fox to take their debate and shove it was a great thing and long time coming.
 
Old 01-28-2016, 07:52 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Even right-winger Bill O-Rielly, who is a good friend of Trump's, said last night that Megyn's question was within the boundaries of journalism. Trump is well documented on video for saying nasty things to women so that makes it a fair question because it gets at character and how a person handles people. When Hillary was asked at a debate about the women who accused Bill of abusing them, she answered it straight on without getting in a nasty Twitter war afterward. Trump is too thin-skinned to be president. He's spent his entire life surrounded by yes men and doesn't know how to deal with others he can't fire. He's a big baby when he doesn't get his own way.
Using O'Reilly who is a Fox News big wig as a benchmark of right and wrong is a bit hilarious don't you think? No bias there right? Especially after he agreed prior to the segment not to ask Trump about coming to the so-called debate.

I watched that last night and was waiting for Bill to beg Trump to come back, he kind of did with the milkshake thing. Pllllllleeeeeeeeaaaasssssse Donald? I'll forget the 17 milkshakes you owe me...
I guess he got his orders from Rupert or Roger...
 
Old 01-28-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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I've noticed that in almost every segment I have seen on Fox, Rubio is mentioned in the positive, even though his numbers hover around 10%. Now I know why. Big money is for amnesty (cheap labor) and open borders. Murdoch (big money man behind Fox) officially has come out to endorse Rubio. A blatant conflict of interests.


The entire debating process and the media arm of the political machine is being exposed. Anti-American, pro-illegal immigration, open borders garbage (which Trump happens to be against). It's not wonder he's attacked relentlessly.


Folks who are against Trump; why can't you see what's going on here, and that Trump is the only one for us? Why can't you see that you're being manipulated by the news media, the late night talk shows, and the big money who controls the political strings?
 
Old 01-28-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I've noticed that in almost every segment I have seen on Fox, Rubio is mentioned in the positive, even though his numbers hover around 10%. Now I know why. Big money is for amnesty (cheap labor) and open borders. Murdoch (big money man behind Fox) officially has come out to endorse Rubio. A blatant conflict of interests.


The entire debating process and the media arm of the political machine is being exposed. Anti-American, pro-illegal immigration, open borders garbage (which Trump happens to be against). It's not wonder he's attacked relentlessly.


Folks who are against Trump; why can't you see what's going on here, and that Trump is the only one for us? Why can't you see that you're being manipulated by the news media, the late night talk shows, and the big money who controls the political strings?
The only thing influencing me on my feeling towards Trump are the words that have come out of his mouth, words that have been typed by his own fingers, or words said/written by his authorized spokespeople. And not just the words that have come out recently, although those are bad enough on their own. The man has spent decades spewing his "wisdom," there is more than enough evidence to convince me that a Trump presidency is a bad idea. All this latest stunt has done is confirm those feelings. He is a spoiled brat who throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way and quits if the going gets tough. Those are not good traits in a president.
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Old 01-28-2016, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Exactly......notice that after every big gaffe that Trump has, a day or two later his apologists,defenders need to bail him out. Don't need 4 years of this......we've had 8 yrs of misery where no one in DC got along. No more.
 
Old 01-28-2016, 08:24 AM
 
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The only thing influencing me on my feeling towards Trump are the words that have come out of his mouth, words that have been typed by his own fingers, or words said/written by his authorized spokespeople. And not just the words that have come out recently, although those are bad enough on their own. The man has spent decades spewing his "wisdom," there is more than enough evidence to convince me that a Trump presidency is a bad idea. All this latest stunt has done is confirm those feelings. He is a spoiled brat who throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way and quits if the going gets tough. Those are not good traits in a president.


I generally agree.


When Mr. Trump first announced his candidacy, I posted herein that I would probably vote for him, since I had no desire to vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton. I thought it would be interesting for an 'outsider' to become president, and for him to discover just how demanding and difficult the job is. I was rather looking forward to Mr. Trump, as President, gripping about how hard it was to work with Congress, how terrible it is that his cabinet and court appointments were continually being held up, how he is being unfairly treated by 'the press', etc.


However, being a reasonable person, I rather quickly changed my mind, once Mr. Trump started making his appalling statements and proposals. It was rather like when Senator McCain selected then-governor Sarah Palin to be his choice for VP: I was excited at first (since I had no idea whom she was), but as I got to learn about her, my excitement faded rapidly.


I do understand that some people, once they have tossed their hat on the bandwagon, have an emotional inability to change their support as new information becomes available; to recognize that, perhaps, their initial enthusiasm was ill-placed. Some people simply do not want to admit that they were mistaken, and will come on CD and write thread after thread attempting to justify their continuing support for Mr. Trump. I suspect some of the people in this category will, once they are in the voting booth, secretly change their vote, with no one the wiser.


Of course, there are those whom have become even more enthusiast about Mr. Trump as he utters his supposedly 'politically incorrect' sentiments. I do not expect such people to change their mind, for they believe in what Mr. Trump is saying. Nothing wrong with that. I may think they are mistaken in their thoughts, and they will think I am mistaken in mine. Hence the reason for horse races. However, it is difficult to distinguish between the two categories.


Such is life.
 
Old 01-28-2016, 08:27 AM
 
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Default Trump supporters are hypocrites

The Presidency is a job! The run for office is a job interview!!

Curious.....show of hands.....

How many of you got to choose who gave the interview to you?? I dare say that Trump would never hire a candidate who told him "I would rather not have an interview with you, I'd rather have someone else" ........... Trump would have that person escorted to the door.


To the rabid Trump supporters.......you all went ham on Hillary (for good reason) for walking on to the debate stage late from the ladies room. EVEN TRUMP MADE FUN OF HER!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4W5k0gnqZM


And yet you will support Trump for NOT SHOWING UP AT ALL!????? AT LEAST HILLARY WAS THERE!

I dont even like Hillary!!! Not one bit!!! But I can at least see the hypocrisy in this!!


And WHY would you let him get a pass on something that you wouldnt even be allowed to do when seeking a job???


THINK PEOPLE!!!!

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