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Old 10-26-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Bill...who Hillary wants to put in charge of the economy. Great.
I thought he was going to train the interns ..
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:44 AM
 
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Trump doesn't seem to have a healthcare plan in mind. With that said, I don't understand why small businesses cannot band together for joint policies like large co's do- as one entity in a sense health insurance why. There should be regulation that would allow this.
Trump has a plan and getting rid of Obamacare is the first step. What good is Obamacare to me if I can't afford it. Obamacare is forcing me to lose my insurance. The only thing I can agree with is people who have pre-existing conditions should not be allowed to lose their insurance and that could have been done without blowing up the entire system.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...lthcare-reform
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Trump has a plan and getting rid of Obamacare is the first step. What good is Obamacare to me if I can't afford it. Obamacare is forcing me to lose my insurance. The only thing I can agree with is people who have pre-existing conditions should not be allowed to lose their insurance and that could have been done without blowing up the entire system.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...lthcare-reform
True . Obama and Dems failed on this one for sure .
Promised to make healthcare more affordable but fact is that's not what happened .
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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http://m.townhall.com/columnists/joh...acare-n1612356
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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Obama (promised)...that the cost of insurance would go down “by $2,500 per family per year.†...In fact, the average 25 and 40-year-old will pay double under Obamacare what they would need to pay today, based on rates posted at eHealthInsurance.com
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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Obamacare will create jobs. That would be true if you added "...at the IRS" to the end of it, but companies moved millions of workers from full to part time to avoid punitive new costs under Obamacare.

5 Lies the Democrats Told To Sell Obamacare - John Hawkins
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:58 AM
 
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Obamacare will not increase the deficit. Calling for a massive new government program to cut costs is sort of like moving to Death Valley for the reduced air conditioning bills. Alas, it's not so.

5 Lies the Democrats Told To Sell Obamacare - John Hawkins
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Old 10-26-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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Updated 12:40 PM ET, Wed October 5, 2016:
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Washington (CNN)Bill Clinton criticized President Barack Obama's signature policy reform Monday while on the stump for his wife, Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, calling Obamacare "the craziest thing in the world." But he attempted to temper his criticism at a Tuesday rally.



Speaking at a Democratic rally in Flint, Michigan, the former president ripped into the Affordable Care Act (ACA) for flooding the health care insurance market and causing premiums to rise for middle-class Americans who do not qualify for subsidies.

"So you've got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It's the craziest thing in the world," Clinton said.


On Tuesday, he tried to clean up his criticism.


"Look, the Affordable Health Care Act did a world of good, and the 50-something efforts to repeal it that the Republicans have staged were a terrible mistake," Clinton said at a rally in Athens, Ohio. "We, for the first time in our history, at least are providing insurance to more than 90% of our people."

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"But there is a group of people -- mostly small business owners and employees -- who make just a little too much money to qualify for Medicaid expansion or for the tax incentives who can't get affordable health insurance premiums in a lot of places. And the reason is they're not in big pools," Clinton said. "So they have no bargaining power."
Why not post the entire statement by Bill Clinton?
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Old 10-26-2016, 01:16 PM
 
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The current system works fine if you are eligible for medicaid, if you are a lowering income working person, if your already on medicare or if you get enough or if you get enough subsidies on a modest income that you can afford your healthcare.

But to people who are getting killed in this deal are small businesses and individuals who make just a little too much to get any of these subsidies. Why? Because they are not organized, they don’t have any bargaining power with insurance companies and they are getting WHACKED why?

So you got this CRAZY system where you got where 5 million people have healthcare and you got people out there bussing it working 60 hours a week wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It’s the craziest thing in the world.

-- Bill Clinton
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Old 10-26-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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But to people who are getting killed in this deal are small businesses and individuals who make just a little too much to get any of these subsidies. Why? Because they are not organized, they don’t have any bargaining power with insurance companies and they are getting WHACKED why?

So you got this CRAZY system where you got where 5 million people have healthcare and you got people out there bussing it working 60 hours a week wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It’s the craziest thing in the world.

-- Bill Clinton
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