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Old 10-25-2016, 08:06 PM
 
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Shocking. Something that has runaway inflation and is too expensive for individuals to buy has been lumped into a package that is too expensive for those same people to buy as a group. How did nobody see THAT coming? Fix the pricing model before you try to give it away.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:13 PM
 
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How's that hope and change working out for you?
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:14 PM
 
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Shocking. Something that has runaway inflation and is too expensive for individuals to buy has been lumped into a package that is too expensive for those same people to buy as a group. How did nobody see THAT coming? Fix the pricing model before you try to give it away.

Amen. ACA should have been modeled after 1970 style insurance, to cover hospitalization, not every trip to the doctor, not every prescription, just as auto insurance does not cover a tuneup.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:15 PM
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Now, no one wants to pay for the all-you-can-consume buffet? The left said the concept of "insurance" was equal to that.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:16 PM
 
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How's that hope and change working out for you?
They arent paying for it, they think its fantastic..
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:20 PM
 
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They arent paying for it, they think its fantastic..

except by 2018 there will be no providers offering it. LOL. Can't wait. Maybe next time Pelosi and company might want to read what they vote on, and those affected by ACA's demise might insist they read first, too.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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They are stopping to do business in many areas.. Why do you suppose they are doing that ?
It's simple, amongst those not covered by employer plans only the needy (and chronic) are signing up. Healthy young folks are not buying Obamacare.

How long is an auto insurer going to insure people who get accidents every month ? The program is a Dead Man Walking until congress mandates changes.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:51 PM
 
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That's not why plans purchased through the exchanges are increasing in cost. The insurance companies are losing money. And they're losing money because it has been mostly sicker people purchasing insurance through Obamacare.
Yes, the reason the premiums are increasing so much is to keep the insurance companies solvent, which is why they shouldn't be in the health care business in the first place.

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It would be no different from Geico insuring the most accident-prone drivers in the United States without taking in many of the accident-free drivers.
In theory, yes. However, the accident prone drivers are usually irresponsible. Many of them have multiple DUI violations. Most sick people didn't do anything wrong except find out they were sick. But in our wealthy country, we punish them by making health care and prescription medicine too expensive, while billionaires find loopholes to avoid paying taxes for years.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:55 PM
 
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except by 2018 there will be no providers offering it. LOL. Can't wait. Maybe next time Pelosi and company might want to read what they vote on, and those affected by ACA's demise might insist they read first, too.
I didn't know Pelosi and company could read.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:56 PM
 
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In theory, yes. However, the accident prone drivers are usually irresponsible. Many of them have multiple DUI violations. Most sick people didn't do anything wrong except find out they were sick. But in our wealthy country, we punish them by making health care and prescription medicine too expensive, while billionaires find loopholes to avoid paying taxes for years.

Nonsense. Most sick people never bought insurance, or were not employed f/t earning group insurance via an employer. That is analogous to Junior whining when he crashes his car and will not get an insurance check, when he went w/o insurance his whole life.


They are not getting punished, but simply not getting a free lunch, either. While hospitals always had to offer (since Reagan) charity emergency care, the uninsured often fail to go to docs soon enough to avoid bigger issues, but again, it starts with their decision, most often, not to do the basic things which would enable them to have insurance at their worst times.
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