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View Poll Results: Which Democrat Would have Best Chance at Beating Trump in 2020 for President?
Elizabeth Warren 19 17.12%
Jason Kander 6 5.41%
Tim Kaine 5 4.50%
Tim Ryan 5 4.50%
Keith Ellison 6 5.41%
other (explain) 70 63.06%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-14-2017, 02:38 PM
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I agree that the Dems should run a central-left candidate. However, they'll run out an ultra-progressive.
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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The type candidate Dems run should be guided by the results of elections, state and federal up to and including 2018.
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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Libertarianism tends to alienate the base.
It depends which aspects of libertarianism. I'm a liberal and I like many positions of libertarianism.
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Old 03-14-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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They have no viable options. Their radical protests no doubt cemented Rust Belt to GOP. No Rust Belt, no Democratic POTUS.


Long-term they need a younger politician ideologically like Joe Lieberman or Joe Manchin.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:02 PM
 
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I vote Alan Grayson, a Democrat with cojones, who like Chester Cheetah is independently wealthy, so doesn't cow tow to special interests
He is a wife beater.

Grayson's ex-wife claimed domestic abuse over two decades - POLITICO
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:11 PM
 
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Non Politician is very important. Someone people like on both sides.

Toby Keith.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:16 PM
 
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Al Franken is not a likable guy.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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The current people they have lined up in Congress as potential candidates are sh**. As a liberal I'm not looking forward to having another turd to vote for in 2020.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Donald Trump is probably the most hated President in over a century. This is the Democrats' time to start regrouping to take back Congress in 2018 and make Trump a one-term President in 2020. Democrats need to get over the 2016 election, get over Hillary Clinton, and start looking ahead. Democrats also know what works and what doesn't work. Obama and Sanders excited their base. Hillary Clinton was a big yawn and didn't have a lot of enthusiastic support. Democrats need to groom somebody of the Obama mold, who can unite the center and the left and get the vote out, to kick Donald Trump out in 2020. Barring some sort of miraculous and unlikely turnaround for Trump's Presidency, the 2020 election will b the Democrats' election to lose.

Democrats also have the opportunity here to nominate somebody who can win over some Republican voters who might be open to voting Democrats "just one time" to get rid of Trump. This largely depends on if Trump has serious primary competition in 2020 which is very possible. However, it's for this reason the Democrats shouldn't nominate somebody too far left. They need to nominate somebody center-left who can possibly also appeal to the center right, and do it in a charismatic energizing way.

Nominating Hillary again or somebody like her is a sure way to an 8-year Trump presidency.
LOL, reading this, I got confused. I couldn't figure out whether you were talking about the election 4 years from now, or the one we just had...?
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the 2020 election will b the Democrats' election to lose
Everyone said 2016 was the Democrats election to lose. They lost it.
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Democrats also have the opportunity here to nominate somebody who can win over some Republican voters who might be open to voting Democrats "just one time" to get rid of Trump.
Yeah, this was the strategy going in to the 2016 election too. All these "moderate" Republicans were going to vote for Hillary because they found Trump so unpalatable, and the Dems were sure to retake the Senate, maybe even the House, and win Red states like Texas that they haven't won in years...

How'd that work out for ya? LOL
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However, it's for this reason the Democrats shouldn't nominate somebody too far left. They need to nominate somebody center-left who can possibly also appeal to the center right
You mean like... Hillary Clinton? LOL, you guys just did exactly what you're suggesting. The Dems plotted against Bernie, with the rationale that he was "too far left" and "couldn't appeal to moderate voters", and gave the nomination to a more traditional Democrat. The idea being that Trump was just horrible enough, and Hillary just moderate enough, that the Left, Center, and moderate Right would all vote for her, creating a winning coalition that would propel the Dems to victory.

...They got hammered.

One thing that absolutely will cost you another election in 4 years, is if you fail to not only learn from the mistakes of 2016, but repeat them.

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Old 03-14-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Please tell us about his "much better" legislative matters. Like the bills that he sponsored and/or cosponsored. Hint -there are 4. If you think those are bills that a "much better" senator would be proud of you have a very low bar. If you want a senator that votes only with the way senate D leadership tells him to, then he is your man.
Don't expect an answer!
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