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Old 03-10-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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Has anyone noticed the spike in "suicides" of Yanukovich related people since January? Today yet another one, Party of Regions Stanislav Melnik was found with a bullet in his head

This is the sixth such "suicide" in two months, the other five being:

January 26th: Mykola Serhiyenko, former Ukrzaliznytsia boss appointed by Yanukovich's PM Azarov. "Shot himself with a rifle"
January 29th: Oleksiy Kolesnyk, Kharkiv. "Hanged himself"
February 25th: Sergey Walter, mayor of Melitopol. "Hanged himself"
February 26th: Oleksandr Bordyuh, chief of police Melitopol. "Hanged himself"
February 28th: Mykhaylo Chechetov, chairman of Party of Regions. "Jumped from his apartment window"

Democracy at its finest. Carbon copy of what has been done all over the world by the west.
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Old 03-10-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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Ukrainians better learn how to drive, they're breaking their new toys.

LiveLeak.com - First loss "Saxon" in Ukraine.

This keeps up Russia won't have anything to blow up. LMAO!!
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Old 03-10-2015, 03:28 PM
 
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MOSCOW, 5 March. /TASS/. NATO is using the current situation in Ukraine to
move closer to Russian borders, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov
told a news conference at TASS on Thursday.
"We have noticed that NATO countries have used this as a pretext to throw off
all diplomatic words and advance closer to Russia’s borders," he said.
I think this suggests very technical 'codespeak' for 'git ready' for travelling to the Baltics, yes? The NATO computers I'm sure are 're-translating' this and nod oubt 'understand' what the communication 'means'.
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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Well Trav all you have to worry about is the nukes since you live in Murika. The vassal states of Europe? Well...........that's a little different especially for the people of the east.

Putin should have reacted to this a long time ago. I said it before and I'll say it again. The minds running this escapade in the west are reptilian in nature. They don't use any brain cells from their fore brain, they use only the animal part of the brain when they think. They are not human, they're animal.
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:22 PM
 
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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^ a nice warm moment between Vlad and Lyudmilla Putin before their divorce.
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Old 03-10-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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^ a nice warm moment between Vlad and Lyudmilla Putin before their divorce.

The number of people who like Putin is greater then the number of people who like Obama. Go figure.
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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How true. Stability is THE most important factor in peoples lives and the building of nations. Iraq can serve as a great example of how to destroy a society. Saddam was a dictator, he was not a nice guy but one thing is for sure HIS version of Iraq was far more stable than what we have now. Maybe Rememberme and NOLA think that Iraqis (those still breathing anyway) are better off now than in Saddams time but most people would disagree.

Russian history has ensured that the people prefer not to rock the boat, prefer a strong leader and above all else the stability it brings.
Indeed for Russians an order is a quint-essential thing. They consider an order ( any kind of order) as preferable to anarchy and disarray, that their country is so prone to, for a reason that it has so many different people supporting/believing in so many different ( and often very opposing) ideas. In this sense it is comparable to Iraq, that consisted of three different major groups, whose ideas/beliefs were directly clashing with each other.


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What Putin and his bunch do between themselves has little effect on the daily lives of the people of Russia. What is done to Russia by foreign powers inevitably does. That's why Russians tend to be the way they are in my opinion.
No, it does affect Russians - what Putin and his bunch do, but foreign involvement is considered a bigger therat ( and not without a good reason,) hence Russians react to it all in quite predictable manner.

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Were Russia and Russians to be respected as they rightfully deserve and nations such as America were to go down a path of cooperation and understanding with time Russians would change, their society would change and the situation for the world would be better.

Unfortunately rabid self serving morons rule the day.
I agree. Had Russia been acknowledged as a country worthy of its own path and development, and had it been allowed to reach its potential in post -Soviet period, things would have been very different. Both Russia and the US would have been in healthy competition by now, counter-balancing each other, and the world would have been a much more secure place, with much better economy.
But since the events took a different turn, and "self-serving morons ruled the day" instead, what I suspect is going to happen next, when Mrs Clinton will come to the office, she will have face the fruit of her labor - hers and her husband, dealing with very belligerent and dangerous Russia. Quite logical and inevitable closure of the chapter.
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:03 PM
 
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Re: 'What is done TO (trav's caps) Russia by foreign powers...'

Playing that ole 'the poor me's' game eh???...;-)
No that's not what I've said Travric. I've said that foreign involvement in internal Russian affairs interferes with development of things and affects Russian internal politics in negative way. Not more and not less.
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:15 PM
 
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I agree. Had Russia been acknowledged as a country worthy of its own path and development, and had it been allowed to reach its potential in post -Soviet period, things would have been very different. Both Russia and the US would have been in healthy competition by now, counter-balancing each other, and the world would have been a much more secure place, with much better economy.
Unlikely. Russians are disorganized and prone to chaotic behavior, which is why they prefer strong leaders to keep them in order. They are too proud to do work that they consider beneath them. Having a regular day to day job is an embarassment to most Russians and instead they daydream of being some sort of warrior-tsar-business-gangster. That is why they make bad employees when they go to other countries and often end up in two bit barely organized crime syndicates. That is, unless they are Russian Jews, who have high IQs, are hard workers and major contributors to global mathematics, science, technology and business.

Even what the Russians are currently good at, natural resource extraction, is not really performed by the majority Russian. The business owners are all jews (well, until their business is taken from them), the engineers are imported from other countries, and the laborers are usually central asian minorities.

Thus, it is likely the situation would be not very much different than it is right now.
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