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Old 03-04-2017, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Ubique
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Originally Posted by lukas1973 View Post
No, it's a complete misunderstanding about economics. It's not the money that matters but real goods and services.
Germany has a huge drain of goods and services. In return we get money. The money is useless until it's changed back into real goods and services. What could we do with all the money? We could buy more foreign made goods, but people doesn't seem to want to buy more foreign made goods. Another solution, we could use the money to buy foreign services in foreign countries. Sending idle retirees abroad is a good way to get rid of these freeloaders. It's much better when people in other countries have to supply our freeloaders.
If the retirees spend their senior benefits in Germany then someone in Germany has to work for them. But more work will reduce the living standard. But if they spend their money in Spain or in the U.S. than Spaniards or Americans have to work. We can reduce our working hours and other have to work more. That is a good deal for us. Every retiree that we can force to leave Germany is advantageous for us. Because they absolutely don't perform any service.
Of course Germany pays senior benefits to retirees who emigrate. But in addition to this Germany should give every emigrating retiree an extra bonus. A German retiree who lives in the U.S. can't waste German goods and services. That means per capita more available goods and services in Germany and therefore a higher living standard. The German retiree in the U.S. will mostly consume American goods and services. That means per capita fewer available goods and serives in the U.S. and therefore a lower living standard in the U.S.
Forcing freeloaders out of the country is a good method to increase the living standard.
I highly doubt German seniors who rebuilt Germany and contributed so much to the public treasure are so deserving of contempt and despise.

Secondly, of course seniors no longer work, but they are consumers, and spending their money inside Germany is better for Germany than for example spending their money in Romania.

Although seniors use some services more than working adults, they use other services less -- for example, they don't go to school, and neither need much policing.

Most importantly seniors contribute to society something better than anybody else -- wisdom, experience, knowledge.

A society not caring for its seniors deserves to die.
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Old 03-05-2017, 02:23 AM
 
Location: Near Luxembourg
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Originally Posted by lukas1973 View Post
No, it's a complete misunderstanding about economics. It's not the money that matters but real goods and services.
Germany has a huge drain of goods and services. In return we get money. The money is useless until it's changed back into real goods and services. What could we do with all the money? We could buy more foreign made goods, but people doesn't seem to want to buy more foreign made goods. Another solution, we could use the money to buy foreign services in foreign countries. Sending idle retirees abroad is a good way to get rid of these freeloaders. It's much better when people in other countries have to supply our freeloaders.
If the retirees spend their senior benefits in Germany then someone in Germany has to work for them. But more work will reduce the living standard. But if they spend their money in Spain or in the U.S. than Spaniards or Americans have to work. We can reduce our working hours and other have to work more. That is a good deal for us. Every retiree that we can force to leave Germany is advantageous for us. Because they absolutely don't perform any service.
Of course Germany pays senior benefits to retirees who emigrate. But in addition to this Germany should give every emigrating retiree an extra bonus. A German retiree who lives in the U.S. can't waste German goods and services. That means per capita more available goods and services in Germany and therefore a higher living standard. The German retiree in the U.S. will mostly consume American goods and services. That means per capita fewer available goods and serives in the U.S. and therefore a lower living standard in the U.S.
Forcing freeloaders out of the country is a good method to increase the living standard.
Waw...that's quite absurd! Retired people that consume in Germany are extremely important ! It gives job to your youth, even if it is disappearing slowly!
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Old 03-05-2017, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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Lol that is hillarious. Retirement money is calculated based on the fact that it is consumed within the economy that is paying for it. If the money is drawn out of this economy by emigration, this always negative for the economy and there sould not be any bonus on that. Rather should there be a reduction of retirement money because those money is not contributing to the home economy anymore.

If your theory would be correct, then countries like Thailand where people emigrate to should be ban immigration by rich seniors from western countries. As a fact, instead their economy strongly benefits from every foreign dime spent in those countries.
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Old 03-05-2017, 04:43 AM
 
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I thought it was a troll, unworthy of response. There's no way Lukas can be serious with that post.
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Old 03-05-2017, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Ubique
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I thought it was a troll, unworthy of response. There's no way Lukas can be serious with that post.
I don't see that poster complain about migrants "not performing any service", who never contributed a penny to Germany, but leech off it.

German asylum seekers refuse to work insisting 'We are Merkel's GUESTS' | World | News | Express.co.uk

With same token, why does't Germany force these leeches to leave?
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Old 03-05-2017, 06:06 AM
 
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The Fox, that's what they watch on the Fox. They think that Germans are rednecks with a high birth rate that love to waive flags, live under the rain and waffle kartolfens and wursts...and pray for Shazzum, the crocodile that built the world, and still have some little affection for addie.

Germans don't like children, as a general rule, don't believe in the great crocodile, are tired of flags and want to live away from taxes and...yes...Thailand, Cambodia, away.

Most Germans don't give a grap about muslims, in fact, turks are perfectly functional -more functional than ossies. The only ones that might have some old fashiones crap in their head are ossies.
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Old 03-05-2017, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pennsylvania / Dull Germany
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I don't see that poster complain about migrants "not performing any service", who never contributed a penny to Germany, but leech off it.

German asylum seekers refuse to work insisting 'We are Merkel's GUESTS' | World | News | Express.co.uk

With same token, why does't Germany force these leeches to leave?
Indeed. But the biggest difference is that the senior citizen built up our country after the war, paid into the retirement fund for 40 or more years, paid for todays generation education. They have any right to have a decent life while receiving an acceptable amount of retirement money.


All of what those new people never did, and still get all the money for free.
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Old 03-05-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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Fox tirade, tiresome. Americans said the same about every ethnic group that arrived in droves, including pilgrims that were a bunch of zealots and perverts expelled from Europe, just like Trump's father. I find Trump funny, but to take him seriously denotes the IQ of an o'possum.
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Old 03-05-2017, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Estonia
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The Fox, that's what they watch on the Fox. They think that Germans are rednecks with a high birth rate that love to waive flags, live under the rain and waffle kartolfens and wursts...and pray for Shazzum, the crocodile that built the world, and still have some little affection for addie.

Germans don't like children, as a general rule, don't believe in the great crocodile, are tired of flags and want to live away from taxes and...yes...Thailand, Cambodia, away.

Most Germans don't give a grap about muslims, in fact, turks are perfectly functional -more functional than ossies. The only ones that might have some old fashiones crap in their head are ossies.
You have done too much crocodile, yes?
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Old 03-05-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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I don't see that poster complain about migrants "not performing any service", who never contributed a penny to Germany, but leech off it.

German asylum seekers refuse to work insisting 'We are Merkel's GUESTS' | World | News | Express.co.uk

With same token, why does't Germany force these leeches to leave?
Because in Germany there are many people like lukas who love arab immigrants but hate germans, especially retirees who obviously are/were all nazis.
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