Why is New York City and Philadelphia not viewed as Mid-Atlantic cities? (hot, freeway)
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And being a little over an hour apart its not all that surprising
To me Philly and Baltimore share a similar accent just sounding a little different (hate to say it one with more northern influence and one with more southern influence as this seems contentious). Whereas Philly and NYC have pretty different accents but share a similar abrassivness in tone not accent
To me it may be why people with a Philly accent will at times outside the area be associated with NYC where I dont think think that happens as much with the Baltimore accent. That is the abrasiveness in tone not accent whereas I can hear the similarities in accent pronounciation for Philly and Baltimore that is less common in either to NYC
Besides the o sound, the Philadelphia accent is very different from the Baltimore accent. The Philadelphia accent sounds completely northeastern and the Baltimore or "Bawlmer" accent sounds twangy and southern at times.
The general Philadelphia accent
And then you have the South Philly accent which is more similar to the New York city and North Jersey accents and completely different from the Baltimore accent
Mid-Atlantic is basically Maryland, Virginia, DC, Delaware, and maybe South Jersey. Philly might be mid-Atlantic, but NYC and North Jersey definitely are not. They are solidly Northeast.
I don't know about anyone else, but I always thought the term Mid-Atlantic referred to the part of the East Coast that's basically in the transition zone between the Northeast and the southern states. So if Virginia (south of the DC area) is southern, and Philly and North Jersey are the Northeast, then Maryland, Northern Virginia, DC, Delaware, and maybe South Jersey would be mid-Atlantic, because it's in the transition zone. Hence, mid Atlantic.
I would only include Northern Virginia in the Mid-Atlantic region. And I wouldn't call it a transition zone. The Mid-Atlantic can be thought of as essentially the "Lower Northeast"
50 Cent has even more a southern twang. But guys like 50 are the exception in Queens, not the rule. And you don't hear guys in Philly and NYC making Down South rap either.
The big difference is that (1) nobody up North would ever make a song like this and (2) nobody up North would ever listen to a song like this. We're more into Sheek Louch, Memphis Bleek, Just Blaze, Swizz Beats, DJ Clue, Kay Slay, Cassidy, Styles P, Mobb Deep, Cam'ron, DMX, Foxy Brown, Eve, N.O.R.E., Fat Joe, Beanie Sigel, Hov, Nas, Ruff Ryders, Jadakiss, etc. Y'all are more into Rick Ross and southern rap (and Go-Go and Baltimore Club Music) than you are into that stuff.
Last edited by BajanYankee; 09-19-2013 at 08:53 AM..
Besides the o sound, the Philadelphia accent is very different from the Baltimore accent. The Philadelphia accent sounds completely northeastern and the Baltimore or "Bawlmer" accent sounds twangy and southern at times.
The general Philadelphia accent
And then you have the South Philly accent which is more similar to the New York city and North Jersey accents and completely different from the Baltimore accent
I'm at least glad you chose examples of people born and raised in Philadelphia. If you are from Montgomery, Bucks, Berks, Delco, Lancaster, South Jersey, etc., then you are not from Philadelphia. Posting some videos of clowns from the South Jersey sticks is akin to posting videos of people in Passaic as examples of the "Brooklyn accent."
I'm at least glad you chose examples of people born and raised in Philadelphia. If you are from Montgomery, Bucks, Berks, Delco, Lancaster, South Jersey, etc., then you are not from Philadelphia. Posting some videos of clowns from the South Jersey sticks is akin to posting videos of people in Passaic as examples of the "Brooklyn accent."
That said there is significant regional differences in accent even within Philadelphia
Chris Matthews (from the Far NE) or a Tony Danza (picked an Itlaian) will have more in common with someone from Feasterville, Richboro or Southhampton than they would would with Roxborough. And someone in Swedesboro NJ may sound more like a person from S Philly than say a Chris Matthews from the NE or even DE county.
As someone who grew up partially in the NE and Bucks I find you assertion a tad unfounded and diminishes even the intra-city differences. Someone at 9th and Passyunk has a significantly different accent to me when compared to Frankford and Harbison etc. or Roxborough
As someone who grew up partially in the NE and Bucks I find you assertion a tad unfounded and diminishes even the intra-city differences. Someone at 9th and Passyunk has a significantly different accent to me when compared to Frankford and Harbison etc. or Roxborough
I didn't say there weren't intra-city differences. I said it didn't make any sense to provide nothing but examples of people who aren't even from Philadelphia. Why use examples of the suburbs to represent the city of Philadelphia? And the guy in those videos didn't even sound like someone from Philadelphia. Read the comments in the videos.
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