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Old 09-19-2013, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
This is "Up North" hip hop. Baltimore and DC have never made anything close to resembling this. It's too hard and grimy.


Amil;Beanie Sigel;Memphis Bleek;Jay-Z - 4 Da Fam - YouTube


Cassidy - I'm a Hustla (HD / Dirty) - YouTube
Would you consider Boston Hip-Hop more "hard and grimy" than Baltimore or Washington DC Hip-Hop?
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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B. Rich was largely a copycat and just following what's hot at the time. Lets face it, he wasn't that creative. By the way St. Louis isn't considered part of Southern Hip-Hop. Just to clear up any speculations you could have.
That wasn't hot at the time. Down South rap didn't really blow up until Lil' Jon in 2003. This song was released in 2001-2002. Besides, he wasn't mimicking that sound anyway. That's just Baltimore. Same with Comp.

And you don't hear that "Up North" sound out of DC/B-more anyway. Philly and NYC rap is pretty much indistinguishable. Even Benzino (from Boston) has a style that's clearly "Up North."


THE UNTOUCHABLES FEAT. BENZINO -UNTOUCHABLE - YouTube
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Would you consider Boston Hip-Hop more "hard and grimy" than Baltimore or Washington DC Hip-Hop?
Yep. Check out that Benzino jawn I just posted. I used to DJ Boston clubs in college and they rock out to Onyx, Ruff Ryders, etc.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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My favorite Brooklyn/Philly collaboration. Who were the Baltimore rappers on Roc-a-fella, btw? You may be too young to remember the ROC, though. Just look it up on Wiki.
Oh please. Get outta here with that mess!
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:51 PM
 
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Hey Banjan Yankee did you know the producer of that song 1-900 hustler is Virgina producer named Bink and roca fella had a female artist from VA Nicole Wray?
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Hey Banjan Yankee did you know the producer of that song 1-900 hustler is Virgina producer named Bink
Yes, I did. And where was he living when he produced that song?

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Harrell has been a full-time producer for hip-hop and urban-pop acts since 1995. That year, he boarded a Greyhound and left behind steady DJ-ing gigs in Hampton Roads to chase music-producer dreams in New York City. Harrell arrived in Queens and moved in with hit rapper Mr. Cheeks, a close friend and former Virginia Beach resident.
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The origins of the producers (Kanye from Chicago, Alchemist from L.A. (and Jewish)) are not as important as the people they're making the beats for. You're not going to hear anybody from DC or Baltimore rhyming over the beat to 1-900-Hustler, Surgical Gloves, D-X-L or Nothing Like It. Nor will you hear anybody from around that way on a DJ Clue, DJ Kay Slay or Kid Capri mixtape. Even Eve is more aggressive and abrasive than any rapper down there. Do you remember her bars on Scenario 2000 (with DMX) and Double R What (with Jadakiss)?

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and roca fella had a female artist from VA Nicole Wray?
There is no R&B regionalization the way there is in hip hop. Nobody talks about "Dirty South R&B." There's no style difference between Montell Jordan and Tank. R&B, especially 90s R&B, does not vary in sound by region.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:02 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Wale is from DC and he definitely isn't a Southern artist.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:13 AM
 
Location: The City
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An Italian born in South Philly


Jim Croce - Time in a bottle - 1973 - YouTube


Hall & Oates-Sara Smile - YouTube


The Roots - The Seed (2.0) ft. Cody ChesnuTT - YouTube


Todd Rundgren - Hello It's Me (1972) - YouTube

to me 4 examples and many more of Soulful artists - is that a North East thing? think these labels are often over done

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Old 09-20-2013, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Wale is from DC and he definitely isn't a Southern artist.
He's not an "Up North" rapper like Cassidy or Jadakiss either.

Besides, the character of rap music has changed over the past 10 years. It's less regionalized today so you can have guys like Childish Gambino (Atlanta) or Jay Electronica (New Orleans) that you can't really place in a region. The same is true of Wale (or even Meek Mill). Back when rap was more regionalized, DC/Baltimore definitely fit the southern mold, particularly with rappers like Dirty Mackin. Wale's production was very southern before he connected with Interscope and later MMG. Just listen to Uptown Roamers or 32 D.C. Boyz.

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Old 09-20-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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There are only a few rappers left who make real "Up North" rap nowadays. Sheek Louch, Freeway, Cassidy, Jadakiss and Beans stay true to that form (and suffer commercially as a consequence since nobody outside of the Northeast wants to hear that grimy stuff anymore).

This is from this year's Kay Slay mixtape.


Beanie Sigel - The Big Payback [Jay-Z & T.I. Diss] [2013 New CDQ Dirty] - YouTube
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