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A lot of people seem to be having a problem with BajanYankee's arguments, so to summarize:
1. There is no question that Maryland was historically a southern state.
2. There is no question that in the contemporary era the culturally southern characteristics of Maryland have largely vanished.
3. However, if losing culturally southern traits is enough to make a southern state become northeastern, why aren't southern Florida, the Triangle Region of North Carolina, and other similar transplant-dominated parts of the South now part of the Northeast? I'm grasping for straws here, and the only thing I can think of is they aren't geographically contiguous. But once there's a solid band of "Northern" white folk from DC all the way down to Raleigh, watch out guys!
Those areas are simply too far south to be ever considered being part of the Northeast. So using them as examples are pointless. They sell Philly cheesesteaks and New York style pizza in Los Angeles. Does that make Los Angeles part of the Northeast? States like Maryland were always grey areas to begin with.
The Research Triangle, in my opinion, is the closest thing to a "Mini-DMV" out there.
It's growth is staggering and in a few years to few decades we're going to start to see similar foundations being set there in research and development, foreign services, government, politics, and the like as Washington.
Demographically, I see the area following the example of the DMV.
The Research Triangle, in my opinion, is the closest thing to a "Mini-DMV" out there.
It's growth is staggering and in a few years to few decades we're going to start to see similar foundations being set there in research and development, foreign services, government, politics, and the like as Washington.
Demographically, I see the area following the example of the DMV.
Meaning it will also be culturally northeastern.
It's funny how some people say "culture doesn't stop at state lines!" and then argue that northern culture can't go below a certain point.
The Research Triangle, in my opinion, is the closest thing to a "Mini-DMV" out there.
It's growth is staggering and in a few years to few decades we're going to start to see similar foundations being set there in research and development, foreign services, government, politics, and the like as Washington.
Demographically, I see the area following the example of the DMV.
However, if losing culturally southern traits is enough to make a southern state become northeastern, why aren't southern Florida, the Triangle Region of North Carolina, and other similar transplant-dominated parts of the South now part of the Northeast?
South Florida is not culturally southern. It is Latin American/Caribbean in very large part.
North Carolina has some northern characteristics, but overall it is a conservative, religious, less densely populated and largely rural state with a low COL. That is a big difference from the northeast corridor from the Washington DC area to the Boston area.
South Florida is not culturally southern. It is Latin American/Caribbean.
The white people in Miami are Caribbean? If there was ever a colonial outpost of the NYC metro area, it would be South Florida. Yankees fans and jerseys everywhere. Way better cannoli than what you can find in Maryland.
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer
North Carolina has some northern characteristics, but it is overall a conservative, religious, less densely populated and largely rural state. That is a big difference from the northeast corridor.
And that will soon change. As the transplants keep flowing in, NC will become more liberal. And richer. In effect, more culturally northeastern.
South Florida is not culturally southern. It is Latin American/Caribbean in very large part.
North Carolina has some northern characteristics, but overall it is a conservative, religious, less densely populated and largely rural state with a low COL. That is a big difference from the northeast corridor from the Washington DC area to the Boston area.
So, is The Bronx culturally "Latin American/Caribbean in very large part" and not Northeastern?
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If there was ever a colonial outpost of the NYC metro area, it would be South Florida. Yankees fans and jerseys everywhere. Way better cannoli than what you can find in Maryland. 
