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Old 04-18-2017, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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You're correct, Boston CSA should also be considered legitimate.
How so?
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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It won't really matter if Saint Lucie is nearly 200 miles from Miami proper. That isn't the way the South Florida metropolis works as it is. Miami-Dade's development spills into Broward, which spills into Palm Beach, which has increasingly been spilling into the Port Saint Lucie area. The Tri-County Area is already cohesive and built out to its maximum capacity, there are no gaps in development or structural density when going from one county to the next. This is increasingly also going to become true going north into Port Saint Lucie area
Yes and no. Yes a little if you stay on highway 1. I think Stuart is on here but in the northern part of Martin County. But there are still gaps in Martin County. Then you run into development of course in St Lucie County with PSL and Fort Pierce and it's back to gaps again in Indian River County. If you're on Florida's Turnpike and especially 95 going into Martin County, you feel you are out of the Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Palm Beaches area.
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Old 04-18-2017, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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Carlisle Ohio is unique in that it is split between 2 MSAs. The Warren county portion of the city is in the Cincinnati MSA and the Montgomery portion is in the Dayton MSA.
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Old 04-18-2017, 04:39 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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However, more realistic and possible for the 2023 census redefinition are;
- Chicago + Rockford + South Bend
God, I hope not. Chicago has enough issues to deal with without adding Rockford to the mix.
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Old 04-18-2017, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles
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Could New York-Philadelphia CSA be a thing, or will we have to wait until 2030/2040. Could Scranton connect to NYC?

I think LA-SD is possible, but the link wouldn't be Orange County-San Diego County; it would be Riverside County-San Diego County. I think Santa Barbara could be added to LA as well, based on Ventura to Santa Barbara commuting.

Monterey County could connect to San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, via Santa Cruz County.

Ft. Collins-Denver, maybe?

Logan-Salt Lake?

Something in South Carolina?
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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Or Holland MI being a part of the Grand Rapids MSA, except for 7sq mi of the city that sits in a different county which is not included in the MSA but is called the Holland MI micropolitan area.

...but at least the whole city is united again in the CSA
Southern Michigan is a nightmare in trying to determine MSAs and CSAs. Too many decent-sized cities are too close to each other when compared with county sizes.
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: The City
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Could New York-Philadelphia CSA be a thing, or will we have to wait until 2030/2040. Could Scranton connect to NYC?

I think LA-SD is possible, but the link wouldn't be Orange County-San Diego County; it would be Riverside County-San Diego County. I think Santa Barbara could be added to LA as well, based on Ventura to Santa Barbara commuting.

Monterey County could connect to San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, via Santa Cruz County.

Ft. Collins-Denver, maybe?

Logan-Salt Lake?

Something in South Carolina?


as of the last census NYC and Philly already meet the CSA threshold but the decision was made to keep them separate as the combination is more a function of overlapping burbs then a single place and both csas are large enough the census made a decision not to combine and I doubt they ever will but technically they already meet the commuter connection today at 15% for Burlington county NJ
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Old 04-19-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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as of the last census NYC and Philly already meet the CSA threshold but the decision was made to keep them separate as the combination is more a function of overlapping burbs then a single place and both csas are large enough the census made a decision not to combine and I doubt they ever will but technically they already meet the commuter connection today at 15% for Burlington county NJ
Sounds like Baltimore and DC's situation.
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Old 04-19-2017, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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CSA's are already ridiculously large. Stockton a part of the Bay Area? Rockford, IL part of Chicago? That's just ridiculous. I don't think we need even bigger CSA's.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:08 PM
 
Location: 352
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Could New York-Philadelphia CSA be a thing, or will we have to wait until 2030/2040. Could Scranton connect to NYC?

I think LA-SD is possible.

Something in South Carolina?
With SC, Hilton Head may combine with Savannah, GA. Maybe further into the future Myrtle Beach and Wilmington can combine into a CSA. Myrtle robbed a country from Wilmington's MSA with the last census. Other that that, not really.

As for the others, I can't see NYC and Philly pairing anytime soon. DC and Baltimore will combine first before Philly and NYC do. Same with LA and SD. I feel like they would've combined already if it was going to happen. I think SD likes being independent.
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