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I want to say the Virginia Beach/Norfolk area. Holy crap I just Googled her and her and my uncle came up LOL.
It say's shes from Chesapeake.
Hampton Roads is definitely not quite as southern as other parts of Virginia. It's very transient and cosmopolitan due to the large military population and port. Go inland towards Emporia, and you're definitely in a more stereotypical southern area.
Hampton Roads is definitely not quite as southern as other parts of Virginia. It's very transient and cosmopolitan due to the large military population and port. Go inland towards Emporia, and you're definitely in a more stereotypical southern area.
Like Pensultucky?
So it's safe to say that a large portion of Virgina isn't sterotypically southern? That being Hampton Roads and NOVA.
So it's safe to say that a large portion of Virgina isn't sterotypically southern? That being Hampton Roads and NOVA.
Annie, I think it depends on how you look at it..
Native Hampton Roads & native NoVa are Southern.. but Hampton Roads hosts a lot of temporary military transplants, & NoVa has a lot of first generation government commuters.
If you spend time in areas around Hampton Roads, not close to/or tied to the bases, you know you're in the South. I submit the same about NoVa, once you get past the edge of the DC commute.
Overall, both areas are a cross-section of native Southerners, & non-Southern transplants. Army & Navy station a lot of Deep South natives in Hampton Roads too.. not all 757 transplants are from outside the South.
Delaware and Maryland aren't entirely north or south of one another,.. don't know how it ever made sense to call one southern and one not. Maybe people have been kinda ditzy about geography for a long time.
Chuckle.. yeah..
I think it had more to do with culture/economy than just lines on the map.
Maryland developed a plantation society, Delaware had much smaller farms, requiring fewer slaves. So there were differing investments in slavery.
Also Northern Delaware was connected to Pennsylvania Quakers (& Mid Atlantic industry), which was a cultural influence separating DE (to a degree) from antebellum Maryland.
I generally have two definitions of the South. One is the CB's definition, though I am iffy about Delaware, since it was a Middle Colony. The second definition is of the former CSA, which includes Virginia but excludes West Virginia and Maryland. I sort of include Oklahoma, as I was taught that the territory was supportive of the CSA, but I never cared enough of that state's inclusion to include it.
I don't see any reason why, between West Virginia and Maryland, one should be considered part of the South and one shouldn't. Maybe voting habits, but I'm not one to define a region by voting habits.
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I generally have two definitions of the South. One is the CB's definition, though I am iffy about Delaware, since it was a Middle Colony. The second definition is of the former CSA, which includes Virginia but excludes West Virginia and Maryland. I sort of include Oklahoma, as I was taught that the territory was supportive of the CSA, but I never cared enough of that state's inclusion to include it.
I don't see any reason why, between West Virginia and Maryland, one should be considered part of the South and one shouldn't. Maybe voting habits, but I'm not one to define a region by voting habits.
Voting is too unreliable. You base the north and south off of voting and suddenly the rural north is southern and the urban south is northern. haha
I think it had more to do with culture/economy than just lines on the map.
Maryland developed a plantation society, Delaware had much smaller farms, requiring fewer slaves. So there were differing investments in slavery.
Also Northern Delaware was connected to Pennsylvania Quakers (& Mid Atlantic industry), which was a cultural influence separating DE (to a degree) from antebellum Maryland.
How does the southern part of Delaware compare to the adjacent eastern shore of Maryland?
For a state that is as small as it is I would think that Delaware is pretty different south to north but I'm speculating.
While some would say that MD and DE are southern, its more debatable because the Mason-Dixon line is just that, a random line across the landscape. In fact, the Mason-Dixon line runs perpendicular to most major routes of travel due to the N/S orientation of most valley's in the App. Mountains.
In contrast the border between the North and South further west is the Ohio River, which was an actually barrier to travel between Ohio and Kentucky.
Essentially, the PA/MD/DE division is artificial while the OH/KY/WV one is natural, and natural divisions tend to stand the test of time better.
While some would say that MD and DE are southern, its more debatable because the Mason-Dixon line is just that, a random line across the landscape..
Btown, The Mason-Dixon isn't random. It profoundly separated the degrees of slavery. North of Mason-Dixon had already emancipated their slaves.. or slavery was in severe decline (like Delaware).
South of Mason-Dixon, slavery was more necessary & integral to their economy.
Obviously circumstances are different 150 years later. But I believe the Mason-Dixon's still a political and demographic fault line (to some extent).
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