How many Northerners who moved South want to move back North? (2014, quality of life)
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You mean she would never move to one of poorest cities in one of the poorest states?
The south like all other regions are not equal.
Of course all regions are nor equal. She has visited 48 states, only hasn't been to HI and AK, so she's very aware of the differences. But the "South" does not resonate with her and she's eager to move back North.
I moved from OH to GA. Do I miss some things about OH? Sure, but I still wouldn’t want to move back. I don’t mind the snow or the cold, but what I can’t tolerate is the month after month of gray skies and no sun. It depends upon where you live. I was born in MA, and I don’t remember the grayness like in Ohio.
Now, I’m in coastal GA. The summers are brutal, and I miss the summers in Ohio, but all in all, I need the sun shine year round, and that makes up for the negatives.
The data does not really support the bold claim. Maybe they are moving back but to a different state? Or maybe they are moving back but way more are leaving. Who knows...
CT lost 153,276 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
IL lost 642,821 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
NY lost 1,022,071 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
Then you have...
TX gained 944,018 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
FL gained 1,025,261 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
GA gained 163,536 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
Right, precisely! That's my whole point for this thread. I am very familiar with the data and that NE is losing significant population. But as I mentioned previously, I hear of more and more individuals wanting to move back north so that's why I posed the question, to see if there's a significant trend. My 20 something nephew will be moving back to CT towards the end of the month, after moving to FL few yrs. ago. He absolutely hates FL. He even broke up with his girlfriend because he can't take FL any longer.
Right, precisely! That's my whole point for this thread. I am very familiar with the data and that NE is losing significant population. But as I mentioned previously, I hear of more and more individuals wanting to move back north so that's why I posed the question, to see if there's a significant trend. My 20 something nephew will be moving back to CT towards the end of the month, after moving to FL few yrs. ago. He absolutely hates FL. He even broke up with his girlfriend because he can't take FL any longer.
It happens I’m sure because home is a strong incentive. But if anything I think the domestic outmigration from the NE has increased post-recession. So it’s not a real trend I don’t think, except maybe a trend in your personal anecdotes.
Close I moved from Louisville to Jersey City. Similar concept though. I know CA isn't NE or Northern by definition, but culturally it's more Northern than Southern.
Sorry, I didn't see anything regarding NJ so I assumed you moved back to CA.
And I agree, things do move slower in the South. Recently I went to FL just for a day and while there, I stopped at a coffee shop to get a cup of coffee. There were like three individuals in front of me but the staff were moving so ever slowly, I just left. I think it would have taken like 30 min. to get a cup of coffee. And mind you, this wasn't a fancy type of coffee shop; all they had to do is pour the coffee, add some cream and sugar and I would have been good to go! I don't think my personality type is well suited for the south. Maybe I would learn to slow down eventually, I don't know.
The data does not really support the bold claim. Maybe they are moving back but to a different state? Or maybe they are moving back but way more are leaving. Who knows...
CT lost 153,276 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
IL lost 642,821 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
NY lost 1,022,071 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
Then you have...
TX gained 944,018 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
FL gained 1,025,261 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
GA gained 163,536 from 2010-2017 through domestic migration
In 2017:
NY: 285,252 moved to NY from other states, 452,580 moved AWAY
TX: 524,511 moved to TX from other states, 467,383 moved AWAY
FL: 566,476 moved to FL from other states, 477,586 moved AWAY
So, while NY had a net loss, there were more actual people moving away from TX and FL (and CA) than NY.
NY is actually is the 5th highest state for people moving in from other states, behind only CA, FL, TX, and NC.
Top destinations for NYers were FL, NJ, PA, CA, CT
Top movers to NY were from NJ, PA, CA, FL, CT
I moved from OH to GA. Do I miss some things about OH? Sure, but I still wouldn’t want to move back. I don’t mind the snow or the cold, but what I can’t tolerate is the month after month of gray skies and no sun. It depends upon where you live. I was born in MA, and I don’t remember the grayness like in Ohio.
Now, I’m in coastal GA. The summers are brutal, and I miss the summers in Ohio, but all in all, I need the sun shine year round, and that makes up for the negatives.
YAAASSS!!! to the bolded.
I feel the same way and is part of the reason I made the same move (originally from MI).
I moved from OH to GA. Do I miss some things about OH? Sure, but I still wouldn’t want to move back. I don’t mind the snow or the cold, but what I can’t tolerate is the month after month of gray skies and no sun. It depends upon where you live. I was born in MA, and I don’t remember the grayness like in Ohio.
Now, I’m in coastal GA. The summers are brutal, and I miss the summers in Ohio, but all in all, I need the sun shine year round, and that makes up for the negatives.
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YAAASSS!!! to the bolded.
I feel the same way and is part of the reason I made the same move (originally from MI).
Although I feel like we get plenty of sun in the Chicago area, I know some are genuinely affected by SAD. You can still get lots of sun and snow in places like Denver. One of my complaints about the weather here in Chicago is that we don't get enough snow. I'm actually considering a relo to the Michigan side of the lake where they get hit hard by lake effect snow. Me and the sun don't get along anyway, 30 minutes of exposure and I look like a ripe tomato.
Although I feel like we get plenty of sun in the Chicago area, I know some are genuinely affected by SAD. You can still get lots of sun and snow in places like Denver. One of my complaints about the weather here in Chicago is that we don't get enough snow. I'm actually considering a relo to the Michigan side of the lake where they get hit hard by lake effect snow. Me and the sun don't get along anyway, 30 minutes of exposure and I look like a ripe tomato.
In 2017:
NY: 285,252 moved to NY from other states, 452,580 moved AWAY
TX: 524,511 moved to TX from other states, 467,383 moved AWAY
FL: 566,476 moved to FL from other states, 477,586 moved AWAY
So, while NY had a net loss, there were more actual people moving away from TX and FL (and CA) than NY.
NY is actually is the 5th highest state for people moving in from other states, behind only CA, FL, TX, and NC.
Top destinations for NYers were FL, NJ, PA, CA, CT
Top movers to NY were from NJ, PA, CA, FL, CT
Texas, and Florida both also have millions more than NY as well now.
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I moved from Louisville to Jersey City. Similar concept though. I know CA isn't NE or Northern by definition, but culturally it's more Northern than Southern.
I think it would have taken like 30 min. to get a cup of coffee. And mind you, this wasn't a fancy type of coffee shop; all they had to do is pour the coffee, add some cream and sugar and I would have been good to go! I don't think my personality type is well suited for the south. Maybe I would learn to slow down eventually, I don't know.
