Gubernatorial Race 2018 (Atlanta: wealthiest, cars, lowest)

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by ronricks

But Brian Kemp is corrupt. Right?

Right.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

Time for a math lesson. GDP growth will continue to go down overall as time goes on. Why? Because as you continue to grow your base number, equal or even higher dollar increases can still lead to a smaller percentage increase. In 1985, Reagan had to see only a $231 billion increase (inflation-adjusted) to achieve 3% growth. Today, you'd need $464 billion to achieve the same 3% growth mark. That's a 100% increase in growth required, with only a 33% increase in population to make it happen. As your base number gets larger, it's practically impossible to keep up the same percentage growth. Uneducated people don't understand this, which is precisely why conservatives keep using it as a main talking point.



2% will likely be the new normal as the base number grows. This is glaringly obvious. In fact, the normal back in the 40s was nearing 20% at points. In 50s and 60s, it was 5-8%. In the 70s, it was 4-5%.

As for the "those jobs aren't coming back"...yeah...there are tons of jobs that will not come back as they've been made obsolete by technology. This is just a fact of life. He wasn't saying that jobs altogether won't come back.

Man, the misinformation train is full-steam ahead.

We are very close to hitting 3% for this year depending on how Q3 is revised and what we get in Q4. I am betting we hit the 3% number for 2018 which is something Obama said wouldn't happen again.



President Obama and his Treasury Secretary Jack Lew both said that America's best days were behind her from an economy and jobs creation standpoint. Manufacturing jobs were not coming back. Remember the now infamous "magic wand" comment? Manufacturing jobs are actually coming back. GE, Whirlpool, Caterpillar, Intel, Ford, Boeing, GM, and Apple. True, Carrier did not come back but they are vastly outnumbered by those that are.

President Obama had a very basic lack of understanding of how jobs are created and how the economy actually works outside of government spending more money.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by Iconographer

Right.

We are in agreement there. But, so is Abrams. Maybe even more so when you look at where her money is coming from and how. Two pitiful candidates both who will wreck this state but for different reasons.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Mostly outdated links and information. Of course 'Mexicans' as you put it so eloquently put it were leaving because the economy was at a crawl for most of President Obama's tenure. Do you know what GDP is? There were no jobs. In fact we were sending our jobs to Mexico under both Bush and Obama. The opposite is happening now. Which in turn means what?

You basically don't have a response and just responded, "Mostly outdated links and information" The links were just 1 to a few years old, fairy recent and Nothing become out dated until more current data saying other wise, in which there aren't. You basically say hay I don't like this....... so I'm going to try to make up an excuses to ignore it.

My post was about "sensationalist nonsense" and wanting to build a wall, because two thing 1. most illegals immigrates aren't crossing the bolder but over staying there visa, and 2. there's more migration to mexico then to the US. Most illogical immigrant were people who over stay there visa even before Obama or the rescission. Thus sensationalist nonsense playing to people who don't know the details. Its an insult to the intelligence of the voting public.............. because The Wall plays of the ignorance and Xenophobia from people. Who think most illegal immigrants are crossing the border, you did not counter this.

[ronricks]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

You basically don't have a response and just responded, "Mostly outdated links and information" The links were just 1 to a few years old, fairy recent and Nothing become out dated until more current data saying over wise, in which there aren't.

My post was about "sensationalist nonsense" and wanting to build a wall, because two thing 1. most illegals immigrates aren't crossing the bolder but over staying there visa, and 2. there's more migration to mexico then to the US. Most illogical immigrant were people who over stay there visa even before Obama or the rescission. Thus sensationalist nonsense playing to people who don't know the details. Its an insult to the intelligence of the voting public.............. because The Wall plays of the ignorance and Xenophobia from people. Who think most illegal immigrants are crossing the border, you did not counter this.

Nobody cares or mentions "The Wall" but you. There WAS more migration to Mexico that isn't the case NOW. You realize how things can and do change? Easiest way to curtail Illegal Immigration is to end birthright citizenship, heavily fine and punish corporations that employ Illegal Immigrants and stop giving incentives to Illegals who are here. The "Wall" isn't even in this discussion. Again, your links were out of date and have little to no relevance to October of 2018.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Nobody cares or mentions "The Wall" but you. There WAS more migration to Mexico that isn't the case NOW. You realize how things can and do change? Easiest way to curtail Illegal Immigration is to end birthright citizenship, heavily fine and punish corporations that employ Illegal Immigrants and stop giving incentives to Illegals who are here. The "Wall" isn't even in this discussion. Again, your links were out of date and have little to no relevance to October of 2018.

Actually, that's probably the hardest of all possible ways, since ending it would require a change in the U.S. Constitution.

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Nobody cares or mentions "The Wall" but you. There WAS more migration to Mexico that isn't the case NOW. You realize how things can and do change? Easiest way to curtail Illegal Immigration is to end birthright citizenship, heavily fine and punish corporations that employ Illegal Immigrants and stop giving incentives to Illegals who are here. The "Wall" isn't even in this discussion. Again, your links were out of date and have little to no relevance to October of 2018.

If nobody cares..... Then why are you responding to me? I brought it as a response to bu "sensational nonsense" comment? But yet it's stuff kemp and GOP supports... and nothing you have said change the wall is "sensational nonsense"

[chiatldal]

Originally Posted by JPD

Actually, that's probably the hardest of all possible ways, since ending it would require a change in the U.S. Constitution.

But you know how conservatives support the U.S. Constitution

[Forhall]

Originally Posted by ronricks

Because you don't understand when you are having negative growth or 1.6% growth or 1.7% growth there is nowhere to go but up? GDP, jobs, and unemployment are all 3 distantly different metrics. Obama is the only US President in history to never experience 3% annual GDP growth figures in his presidency. He was good for some things but horrible for jobs and GDP growth. In fact the average GDP growth for all of Obama's term was barely 2%. So with numbers so low yes he is going to have some good quarters of GDP growth. It would be impossible not to.



In fact we were told by Obama's administration that 2% growth was the new 'normal' and "those jobs aren't coming back".

Dems Vs Repubs by the numbers last 50 yrs

Years held Presidency
Repub-28yrs
Dem-22 yrs

Total jobs created
Repub-24 Million
Dem-42 Million

Stock market return
Repub-109%
Dem-992%

GDP
Repub-2.7%
Dem-4.1%

Income growth
Rep-0.6%
Dem-2.2%

(source politico, bloomberg, USDL)

[chiatldal]

Democrats have problems with the progressive base cause many have been diet Republicans for years, but Republicans are so in the tank for corporate welfare, how convenient for republicans that their platform is basically to give their donor tax cuts....... And to distract how backwards that is...........they basically blame problems on minorities, immigrates, non Christians, gays and etc.

So now there issue with funding infrastructure and etc, but Republicans want give there donors tax cuts. In the mean time let say immigrants, gays, people are trying take away your guns and etc are your problems.