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Yes, indeed, I am absolutely in favor of the proactive approach as merely reacting leads to a lot of damage that then has to be fixed, which costs a lot of time, money, energy etc.
Much easier to act proactively and stomp on individual rights? I see, a position of laziness? I mean, you would do what is right and just, but its too much effort, so with a broad swoop, you condemn all and tell those dirty peasants how it is going to be!
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Individual freedom for all whites, more precisely. There were other countries before the US, that had freedom for select groups of the population...
Not only a sexist, but a racist position you hold I see? If anyone of rational mind were to evaluate your past position on sexes, it is quite evident that your position on race would be the same. Shame on you. Sexism and racism is a bad position, but it is one you seem to hold dear to you.
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I don't like dictatorships either, most revolutionary people started out as good guys who later turned into dictators when they failed to convince people of their visions. That does not mean at all that their visions were wrong.
So you are all for dictatorships, as long as it fits your appeal? You are an apologist for oppressive behavior. Nothing more.
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I did not say that I 'blindly accept politicians as my master'. I said I trust them much more under the condition of a functioning political system. That is not quite the same, is it? It is obvious you have too much time, but don't waste it on putting words in my mouth, I do notice it...
I have no need to put words in your mouth, you have been quite adept at explaining to people here your position. It is one of arrogance, ignorance, and one to which many people in past have fought and bled to be rid of. It is not surprising you hold such an ignorant and arrogant view as you are simply a pawn placating to your emotional desire to be appreciated for your pandering to a political ideal. You are not anything special. People like you have littered history with their rhetoric. They praise ideals of their choice, they are arrogant, ignorant, racist, and sexist. All of which you have shown in your position. You do not surprise people, you are expected! You are nothing more than a average component of historical process.
What is sad, is that through your arrogance you think it will serve a better outcome, yet the apex of your belief only leads to a battle of independence to which those of your nature swing in the sun of the courtyards of the assemblies you proclaimed to rule. There is no happy ending for your position, only death and it is those who seek freedom to which will see such come to fruition.
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I am pro limited choice to put it that way. For instance, over the years I have observed that here most elderly do their shopping in those little stores that offer always the same maybe 2 or 3 products per category. That is enough to them as they are still used to humbleness and modesty. Young people however do their shopping at the huge malls and supermarkets where there are dozens if not hundreds of products per category. All of that takes a lot of space of course, thus they have to cut down lots of trees for that. I just think there is way too much choice today.
You are pro limited choice based on your stereotypical view of the masses. Your arrogance leads you to believe you have people figured out. You make judgments on people using your ignorant assumptions and then dictate to which life and society should exist. You hold nothing more than a naive, ignorant, and arrogant belief that you have even a remote clue of how people are. That doesn't stop a racist, sexist, and ignorant person though, they will dictate their will upon the masses as they see fit! You think you are enlightened, but you are merely confused and too arrogant to notice the assumptions you make. You are a danger to free society and a detriment to mankind as history has shown your actions throughout.
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You don't know what a sexist is. That's a person who thinks one sex, usually his own, is better than the other. That is not what I said if you read carefully.
No, that is what you said. You simply tried to downplay it by putting in words that attempted to claim neutrality, yet failed because each time you attempted, you always sided with a conclusion against another. I think you need to look up what a sexist is rather than attempting to redefine it to a place where you can feel comfortable with your obviously sexist view. You aren't fooling anyone here. We see what you are and what you stand for. You have been more than clear in your position.
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Really, your superficial way of discussing is a bit annoying...
Call me an idealist based on my realism.
Most people confused with their own positions think so. You are not a realist, and your attempt to slide words into a position that fits you is simply a desperate attempt to save face in the denial that you hold.
Good luck with your delusional position. Keep telling yourself that you are correct and maybe it will keep you from seeing the flaws in your own reasoning.
Judging from the reputation comments anyone with half a brain understood what I was writing, but you pretend not to. And to cover it up you go on putting words into my mouth and misinterpreting everything according to your simple mind. No thanks, no more time to feed trolls like you
Judging from the reputation comments anyone with half a brain understood what I was writing, but you pretend not to. And to cover it up you go on putting words into my mouth and misinterpreting everything according to your simple mind. No thanks, no more time to feed trolls like you
I have been asking you questions into the details of your position and sounding it back to you. The problem here is not me misrepresenting what you said, but the fact that you have not measured the consequence of your own ideal and are surprised when you hear it mouthed back to you. You hold positions that are naive and filled with idealistic grandeur, yet you never pay them the detailed attention they require to see what they truly are and what they truly become.
I am sorry that you are fooled by a belief that your oppressive ideology is the betterment of mankind, yet like most oppressors in history, they also believed that their actions were for the benefit of everyone while they lay waste to all in their idealistic pursuit.
I have been asking you questions into the details of your position and sounding it back to you. The problem here is not me misrepresenting what you said, but the fact that you have not measured the consequence of your own ideal and are surprised when you hear it mouthed back to you. You hold positions that are naive and filled with idealistic grandeur, yet you never pay them the detailed attention they require to see what they truly are and what they truly become.
I am sorry that you are fooled by a belief that your oppressive ideology is the betterment of mankind, yet like most oppressors in history, they also believed that their actions were for the benefit of everyone while they lay waste to all in their idealistic pursuit.
Quite wrong. I am a radical that has developed his view of the world for decades. I know the consequences of my thoughts very well, and thus that I will never see any of them implemented because at least of 90% humans are stupid in my view. I know they rule, that is why our world is the way it is.
You seem to have a lot of time and interest in long posts, I don't. I don't want to spend more than 5 to 10 minutes max on one post. I see no reason to write every little detail of my thoughts on this topic here (it is not even the topic), it is a waste of time, especially with an American audience. I used to do that on the German board years ago, Germans are much more open-minded. In hindsight still a waste of time.
Americans are mostly very narrow-minded, they can't understand, don't want to hear, and hate anything that contradicts what they grow up believing. That's all over this board. Germans at least cover the full spectrum, there are the boring masses of capitalists of course, but for instance there is also a communist party and if someone feels communism is the right way, nobody attacks them. People are realistic and know none of the world's system is the real mccoy. They all just serve to muddle our way through life till the next catastrophe or war.
Just a couple of days ago the Portuguese prime minister was in the US and spoke to a group of university students. When he said he is a proud socialist, they booed (so much for friendliness, we call that rude), reminds me of Pavlov
Just a couple of days ago the Portuguese prime minister was in the US and spoke to a group of university students. When he said he is a proud socialist, they booed (so much for friendliness, we call that rude), reminds me of Pavlov
The PM should have known is audience. His statement incited their emotions.
See, That's one of the many differences between here and there. You say something stupid we'll tell about it.. not sit mute like a bunch of milktoasts..... But since your smarter than 90% of the world you won't see it that way....
P.S. Maybe you should change self definition of radical to megalomaniac
Generally speaking, Socialism is unacceptable in the US. We believe in personal freedom and personal responsibility.
The PM should have know that - he should have know his Intelligent audience believed in freedom.
I don't know why he said he is a socialist because actually he isn't (probably because he officially is from the Socialist Party, which however would make people like Marx turn in their graves). Either way, since Americans know (next to) nothing about Portuguese politics, they had to assume he meant what he said. Now, what if a politician from a Muslim country spoke to a group of US students and said he was a proud Muslim, would they also boo? After all, a lot of Americans seem to despise Islam. Here, if a guest has views we don't like we keep it to ourselves as it has no consequence for us anyway.
Point is, people who claim to enjoy the freedom of speech and thought should also grant others that freedom who don't think their way, don't you think?
About a year ago I saw a funny video of a speech by Dawkins at a Lynchburg college, the reactions and the discussion that followed were very telling
PS: We believe in personal freedom and responsibility as well, but since Americans are so educated I am not surprised they don't know
If you review the studies done for instance by Freedom House and others, you will notice we enjoy the same amount of - if not more, just think of the massive privacy violations (http://www.privacyinternational.org/survey/rankings2007/map.jpg - broken link) in the US - personal freedom in Europe as people in the US.
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Bizzaro positions like this 10:10 movement are extremely off-putting
