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Old 08-30-2011, 06:30 PM
 
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Why should it be supported? It doesn't address the many other laws they have violated. Its weak plea bargain at best.
Not only that but we have high unemployment and a bad economy right now. So why do we need to make millions of illegals citizens so they can continue to compete for jobs against Americans? Many of them use our ER's as a health clinics and we are automatically obliged to treat them for free. If they give birth we pay for those costs also. We don't need the added population growth added permanantly to our society to further deplete or natural resources either. With their many dependants and low wages they still wouldn't be paying much if anything in income taxes.

What about diversity? The group of illegals that would benefit the most would be mostly Mexicans and other Latinos. If we are to remain a melting pot then we sure don't need millions here coloniziing rather than assimilating as they are doing now.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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It actually does, since once they are citizens all of those crimes will be made unnecessary. No one's going to commit document fraud when they are legally granted the documents.
If I understand your reasoning...

You're suggesting that Congress repeal our current immigration laws (US Code) in order to decriminalize those in violation thereof?
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:47 PM
 
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If I understand your reasoning...

You're suggesting that Congress repeal our current immigration laws (US Code) in order to decriminalize those in violation thereof?
Not exactly.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:47 PM
 
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If I understand your reasoning...

You're suggesting that Congress repeal our current immigration laws (US Code) in order to decriminalize those in violation thereof?
Makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? In otherwords, if they have already committed felony theft of I.D.'s and SS numbers just for starters all will be forgiven. They couldn't help it. They had to break more laws after the first one of illegal entry. Let a citizen try to get away with breaking several laws, especially a felony. Yeah right like that's going to happen. He/she would get the book thrown at them.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:52 PM
 
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Not exactly.
Sounds like it, perhaps you could elaborate for me...
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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I consider the vast majority of immigration violations, in and of themselves, to be victimless and nonserious. So I would like legislation to reflect that.
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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I consider the vast majority of immigration violations, in and of themselves, to be victimless and nonserious. So I would like legislation to reflect that.
And who are you going to get to do that?
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Old 08-30-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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And who are you going to get to do that?
What do you mean?
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:33 PM
 
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What do you mean?
Well, you suggested that someone other than Congress can repeal US Code, right?

Ie: How do you plan to accomplish the decriminalization of those already here (illegal presence), those who will have been found to have committed document fraud, etc?

If not Congress, who did you have in mind to do this? Are you suggesting amnesty through executive order, again?
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:36 PM
 
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Well, you suggested that someone other than Congress can repeal US Code, right?
No...but sure, courts could effectively do so, for example.
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