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Yes there are Muslims who do not follow a Madhab, such as the Sufi. While a madhab is somewhat vague, it is best for a Muslim to study them all and stay with one until they can move onto what best allows them to follow Islam as they find it to be.
That is what the Wahhabi and Salafi claim to be doing. but without following the Ahadith and the fiqh-ul-Sunnah they have no way of understanding what the Sahabi did. the first four madhabs give an example of how the sahabi lived and practiced Islam.
The original Sufi under Rumi may have been the most accurate Madhab, but it changed over time with the veneration of Saints. Seems they incorporated a touch of Catholicism into their practices. without that innovation I believe more Muslims would be Sufi. I know I would have stayed Sufi if not for that.
The hadith is innovation...
It is not from the prophet, but those who came after the prophet..
It is not from the prophet, but those who came after the prophet..
Nothing but innovation...
The Ahadith are eye witness accounts of the things Muhammad said and did during his lifetime. His wife Aisha is the source for nearly 1/3 of the ahadith. Yes there are unverified ahadith and some may be fabrications. Only the Ahadith collected by the first 4 Imams are considered Authenticate and Reliable by the Sunni.
The Ahadith are eye witness accounts of the things Muhammad said and did during his lifetime. His wife Aisha is the source for nearly 1/3 of the ahadith. Yes there are unverified ahadith and some may be fabrications. Only the Ahadith collected by the first 4 Imams are considered Authenticate and Reliable by the Sunni.
They are heresay.
They are eyewitness accounts passed down. They even have different degrees of being acceptable.
The 5 pillars do not even include them:
Faith or belief in the Oneness of God and the finality of the prophethood of Muhammad;
Establishment of the daily prayers;
Concern for and almsgiving to the needy;
Self-purification through fasting; and
The pilgrimage to Makkah for those who are
As far as I am concerned they are innovation and had I stayed within Islam I would have not followed them but I would have been a Quranist.
I know many Muslims who agree they are innovation and only follow Qur'an.
Unlike many countries the growth of Islam does not seem to be dependent upon immigration. Although it has been significant in recent years. The percentage of Muslims in the USA will probably grow without immigration through converts to Islam and population growth of the current population. there has been a Muslim presence in the USA for as long as there has been a USA. Even earlier as most Spanish expeditions had Muslims among them.
This is positive opinion and helps support the North American Muslim in obligation and vocation toward the propagation of True Islam, without any hindrence , with respects to immigration.
Education as you continuously point out is a crucial area which can and will
stimulate the finest in True Islams healthy contribution. With ease we know education can and will make a difference.
Reasonable & good expectation in education requires both structure and order in its environment.
New and un-welcome influence is alive and well in the diverse interests and nature, of global Islamic interpretation. Un-welcome influence interferes with True Islams objectives toward unity.
Unity in family, neighborhood, community and country represents a constructive goal. A goal in True Islam which does not need, any more interference than it already has endured.
Europe demonstrates the future chaos. I think France is at 9%. There is virtually nothing to support a future in N/A which can or will follow a different path. Containing perimeters allows for stability which is an extension of healthy control, as well education without interference.
Not like in the south, it would hardly take much creative thinking to bring this to a blunt halt and give one continents Islamic population a chance to express True Islam, which is the objective as I understand .Communication can effect all necessary. Theres no doubt about that, entry with full citizenship is the only serious approach, especially in attention to the well known many non-returning visitors.
N/A if self respecting, with full Muslim encouragement requires a temporary lockout until further notice. Without playing games about how, where or when with delays.
They are eyewitness accounts passed down. They even have different degrees of being acceptable.
The 5 pillars do not even include them:
Faith or belief in the Oneness of God and the finality of the prophethood of Muhammad;
Establishment of the daily prayers;
Concern for and almsgiving to the needy;
Self-purification through fasting; and
The pilgrimage to Makkah for those who are
As far as I am concerned they are innovation and had I stayed within Islam I would have not followed them but I would have been a Quranist.
I know many Muslims who agree they are innovation and only follow Qur'an.
So I know I am not alone in my view.
Yes, there are many Qur'an only Muslims. (Quranists) It is also true when one uses the ahadith for reference they need to be aware of the different levels of authenticity and reliability. For most it is best to refer only to Bukhari as that has the highest level of Authenticity, in that they were all traced back to the original sources. But some do have low reliability and may not be the exact words as there are not a minimum of 4 witnesses seeing and hearing the exact same thing.
However the ahadith and the Fiqh-ul-Sunnah are the source for the 5 Pillars and the source for how we pray.
Yes, there are many Qur'an only Muslims. (Quranists) It is also true when one uses the ahadith for reference they need to be aware of the different levels of authenticity and reliability. For most it is best to refer only to Bukhari as that has the highest level of Authenticity, in that they were all traced back to the original sources. But some do have low reliability and may not be the exact words as there are not a minimum of 4 witnesses seeing and hearing the exact same thing.
However the ahadith and the Fiqh-ul-Sunnah are the source for the 5 Pillars and the source for how we pray.
In my opinion Muslims have raised the hadith to the same level as the Qur'an. They blindly follow hadith.
Using it as a source on prayer is fine. but it is still an innovation.
You have said many times here that what muslims are required to follow are the 5 pillars. Hadith are not part of the 5 pillars. Muslims are not required to follow hadith.
The hadith may be a source of understanding but they should never take the place of Qur'an.
Islam needs to have Imams who are scholarly and knowledgeable about the faith. Who understand that you need to have a leader. You say Islam has no leaders but I beg to disagree.
Imam Magid the Imam of Adams Center near me is a very knowledgable Imam who leads a very large mosque filled with Sunni, and Shia worshipping together. He has a relationship with the rabbi of my synagogue and we give them pray space for their Friday prayers so those who live in my town don't have to drive all the way to the larger musjid.
He came a few Saturdays ago to our weekly Torah group so both the Rabbi and Imam could speak about Halacha and Sharia.
He is a leader of that mosque. This is what Islam needs.
The Islamization of Europe indicates otherwise. I must disagree 100%.
The USA is not Europe. The fastest growing Groups of Muslims in the USA are among reverts not immigrants. although there was an explosion of immigrants since 9/11 but that seems to have peaked. The immigrants who came here were mostly well educated and have settled into various professions. the typical US Muslim is better educated and has a higher income than what is occurring in Europe.
The USA is not Europe. The fastest growing Groups of Muslims in the USA are among reverts not immigrants. although there was an explosion of immigrants since 9/11 but that seems to have peaked. The immigrants who came here were mostly well educated and have settled into various professions. the typical US Muslim is better educated and has a higher income than what is occurring in Europe.
Yes, and the also produce more offspring. Perhaps this is a major factor in the growth of Islam, don't ya think? Pop out the kids, and brainwash 'em while they are young.
The USA is not Europe. The fastest growing Groups of Muslims in the USA are among reverts not immigrants. although there was an explosion of immigrants since 9/11 but that seems to have peaked. The immigrants who came here were mostly well educated and have settled into various professions. the typical US Muslim is better educated and has a higher income than what is occurring in Europe.
But are there no Muslim immigrants in the USA? Do they not factor signifcantly in how Islam exists in the West?
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