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Old 09-16-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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I am still waiting for an answer from you.
in some islamic countries they wear bikini in the beach and i do not know about topless.

i advice you to concentrate on believing on the one who brought you into this planet and in in his final messenger
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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in some islamic countries they wear bikini in the beach and i do not know about topless.

i advice you to concentrate on believing on the one who brought you into this planet and in in his final messenger

No. I don't buy it. Everything I've looked up it is forbidden for women to dress in any manner that would tempt a man to look at her.

Oh thanks for the advice but I don't believe in god.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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No. I don't buy it. Everything I've looked up it is forbidden for women to dress in any manner that would tempt a man to look at her.

Oh thanks for the advice but I don't believe in god.
Notice he doesn't respond to any of my posts.

I think he is scared.
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Old 09-17-2009, 03:04 PM
 
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Notice he doesn't respond to any of my posts.

I think he is scared.

The natural inclination is for a man to be attracted to a woman, and for a woman to be attracted to a man. As for a person
being attracted to another member of his or her own sex, this is contrary to the sound human nature that Allaah has instilled
in people, and it does not exist even among animals. In addition to being contrary to sound human nature, it is at a lower level
than that of animals.

Homosexuality is a severe illness and a grave calamity.

Homosexuality means having intercourse with males in the back passage.

This was the action of the accursed people of the
Prophet of Allaah Loot (peace be upon him). In sharee’ah terminology it refers to inserting the tip of the penis into the anus
of a male.

What is mentioned concerning these actions in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:
A – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has
committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by
committing great sins)’”
[al-A’raaf 7:80-81]

B – “Verily, We sent against them a violent storm of stones (which destroyed them all), except the family of Loot (Lot), them
We saved in the last hour of the night”
[al-Qamar 54:34 – interpretation of the meaning]

C – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has
committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?”
[al-A’raaf 7:80 – interpretation of the meaning]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘You commit Al‑Faahishah (sodomy the worst sin) which none has
preceded you in (committing) it in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)’”
[al-‘Ankaboot 29:28]

D – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), We gave him Hukm (right judgement of the affairs and Prophethood) and (religious)
knowledge, and We saved him from the town (folk) who practised Al‑Khabaa’ith (evil, wicked and filthy deeds). Verily, they
were a people given to evil, and were Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”
[al-Anbiya’ 21:74 – interpretation of the meaning]

E – “And (remember) Loot (Lot)! When he said to his people, ‘Do you commit Al‑Faahishah (evil, great sin, every kind of
unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)

Do you practise your lusts on men instead of women? Nay, but you are a people who behave senselessly.’

There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: ‘Drive out the family of Loot (Lot) from your city.

Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!’
So We saved him and his family, except his wife. We destined her to be of those who remained behind.

And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). So evil was the rain of those who were warned”
[al-Naml 27:54-58 – interpretation of the meaning]
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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The natural inclination is for a man to be attracted to a woman, and for a woman to be attracted to a man. As for a person
being attracted to another member of his or her own sex, this is contrary to the sound human nature that Allaah has instilled
in people, and it does not exist even among animals. In addition to being contrary to sound human nature, it is at a lower level
than that of animals.

Homosexuality is a severe illness and a grave calamity.

Homosexuality means having intercourse with males in the back passage.

This was the action of the accursed people of the
Prophet of Allaah Loot (peace be upon him). In sharee’ah terminology it refers to inserting the tip of the penis into the anus
of a male.

What is mentioned concerning these actions in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:
A – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has
committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by
committing great sins)’”
[al-A’raaf 7:80-81]

B – “Verily, We sent against them a violent storm of stones (which destroyed them all), except the family of Loot (Lot), them
We saved in the last hour of the night”
[al-Qamar 54:34 – interpretation of the meaning]

C – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has
committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?”
[al-A’raaf 7:80 – interpretation of the meaning]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘You commit Al‑Faahishah (sodomy the worst sin) which none has
preceded you in (committing) it in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)’”
[al-‘Ankaboot 29:28]

D – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), We gave him Hukm (right judgement of the affairs and Prophethood) and (religious)
knowledge, and We saved him from the town (folk) who practised Al‑Khabaa’ith (evil, wicked and filthy deeds). Verily, they
were a people given to evil, and were Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”
[al-Anbiya’ 21:74 – interpretation of the meaning]

E – “And (remember) Loot (Lot)! When he said to his people, ‘Do you commit Al‑Faahishah (evil, great sin, every kind of
unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)

Do you practise your lusts on men instead of women? Nay, but you are a people who behave senselessly.’

There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: ‘Drive out the family of Loot (Lot) from your city.

Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!’
So We saved him and his family, except his wife. We destined her to be of those who remained behind.

And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). So evil was the rain of those who were warned”
[al-Naml 27:54-58 – interpretation of the meaning]

So how do you explain why Muslim women, or all women for that matter, in Egypt in 1970 covered themselves?

Also, why does the Koran say that you should beat your wife, and that God placed Men above women?

Also, do you agree with the Indonesian law that

A. Legalizes stoning women TO DEATH for adultery

and

B. Jails homosexuals.

My bet is you won't answer these questions, you'll just post something from the Koran.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:59 PM
 
Location: OKC
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The natural inclination is for a man to be attracted to a woman, and for a woman to be attracted to a man. As for a person
being attracted to another member of his or her own sex, this is contrary to the sound human nature that Allaah has instilled
in people, and it does not exist even among animals. In addition to being contrary to sound human nature, it is at a lower level
than that of animals.

Homosexuality is a severe illness and a grave calamity.

Homosexuality means having intercourse with males in the back passage.

This was the action of the accursed people of the
Prophet of Allaah Loot (peace be upon him). In sharee’ah terminology it refers to inserting the tip of the penis into the anus
of a male.

What is mentioned concerning these actions in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:
A – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has
committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by
committing great sins)’”
[al-A’raaf 7:80-81]
...
There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: ‘Drive out the family of Loot (Lot) from your city.

Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!’
So We saved him and his family, except his wife. We destined her to be of those who remained behind.

And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). So evil was the rain of those who were warned”
[al-Naml 27:54-58 – interpretation of the meaning]
You have a sick, twisted, evil religion.

There is nothing natural or un-natural about sex. And if there were, there would be no reason to prefer natural to artificial. What's so good about natural, anway?

I can't see well. I wear glasses. Is that natural? I shave my face, rather then lettng my hair grow. Natural? I use deoderant so I don't stink. Natural? My wife uses contraception, so we don't have unexpected children. Natural? If you needed a kidney transplant, would you turn it down because its not natural to use another persons kidney?

It seems to me that you only raise the "not natural" arguement when it happens to fit your personal prejudice. Otherwise, we accept non-natural things without pause.

And yes, we know your religion is hateful and homophobic. That was one of the points. Its one of the reason modern people reject Islam.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Somewhere between here and there.
124 posts, read 283,748 times
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Originally Posted by moonsun View Post
The natural inclination is for a man to be attracted to a woman, and for a woman to be attracted to a man. As for a person
being attracted to another member of his or her own sex, this is contrary to the sound human nature that Allaah has instilled
in people, and it does not exist even among animals. In addition to being contrary to sound human nature, it is at a lower level
than that of animals.

Homosexuality is a severe illness and a grave calamity.

Homosexuality means having intercourse with males in the back passage.

This was the action of the accursed people of the
Prophet of Allaah Loot (peace be upon him). In sharee’ah terminology it refers to inserting the tip of the penis into the anus
of a male.

What is mentioned concerning these actions in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:
A – Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has
committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?
Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by
committing great sins)’”
[al-A’raaf 7:80-81]

B – “Verily, We sent against them a violent storm of stones (which destroyed them all), except the family of Loot (Lot), them
We saved in the last hour of the night”
[al-Qamar 54:34 – interpretation of the meaning]

C – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has
committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?”
[al-A’raaf 7:80 – interpretation of the meaning]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘You commit Al‑Faahishah (sodomy the worst sin) which none has
preceded you in (committing) it in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)’”
[al-‘Ankaboot 29:28]

D – “And (remember) Loot (Lot), We gave him Hukm (right judgement of the affairs and Prophethood) and (religious)
knowledge, and We saved him from the town (folk) who practised Al‑Khabaa’ith (evil, wicked and filthy deeds). Verily, they
were a people given to evil, and were Faasiqoon (rebellious, disobedient to Allaah)”
[al-Anbiya’ 21:74 – interpretation of the meaning]

E – “And (remember) Loot (Lot)! When he said to his people, ‘Do you commit Al‑Faahishah (evil, great sin, every kind of
unlawful sexual intercourse, sodomy) while you see (one another doing evil without any screen)

Do you practise your lusts on men instead of women? Nay, but you are a people who behave senselessly.’

There was no other answer given by his people except that they said: ‘Drive out the family of Loot (Lot) from your city.

Verily, these are men who want to be clean and pure!’
So We saved him and his family, except his wife. We destined her to be of those who remained behind.

And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). So evil was the rain of those who were warned”
[al-Naml 27:54-58 – interpretation of the meaning]

Doesn't happen among animals? Really? You must pay no attention to science! I was cleaning at a house the other day where a male chihuahua was going at it with a male bull dog. Interesting to say the least! The little dog was violating the bigger dog's "back passage"!!!
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