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Old 02-20-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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And St. Louis was ranked most dangerous on the list at #1.

The article does include some good news though for America overall.

The 11 Most Dangerous Cities - US News and World Report
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:35 PM
 
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I realize you're just being obnoxious but that's 2009 data. In 2010, the ranking was 21st and in 2011 the ranking was 22nd and I've also pointed out KC used to be ranked about 10th in past.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/kansa...rous-city.html

If you're going to attempt to 'keep it real', at least use current data.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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I realize you're just being obnoxious but that's 2009 data. In 2010, the ranking was 21st and in 2011 the ranking was 22nd and I've also pointed out KC used to be ranked about 10th in past.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/kansa...rous-city.html

If you're going to attempt to 'keep it real', at least use current data.
While I understand that lists and rankings like these are difficult to compose, have many variables, and vary so much from year to year - I firmly believe they say something fundamental about the cities that continually pop up on them, and THAT is what matters. Completely precise rankings would be really difficult to compose, if not impossible. Thus, the exact ranking on the lists doesn't matter so much. The underlying social cancer that plagues the cities on these lists doesn't drastically change from year to year.

BTW, the article in my initial post was actually published in February 2011. I did make the mistake of thinking it was just published.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:24 PM
 
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Either way the article is based on 2009 data. You do tend to dramatize the crime (cancer?) in KC as much as you possibly can. Yeah, the E Side is bad, we get it. Fortunately downtown/midtown are improving and have lower crime index than many other city cores (granted higher than you are comfortable with). Would at least be nice to recognize improvements too. Gotta start somewhere.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:06 PM
 
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Ranking "CITIES" (as in city limits) is junk science, because some cities, such as St. Louis, have city limits that are just the inner core (inner 1/12) of their metro area -- where most crime occurs -- and other "cities", such as Houston or Oklahoma City, set their city limits way out to include most of their low crime suburbs and thus dilute the city crime rate.

A much more fair comparison is Metro Area to Metro Area, since those are not political boundaries, but represent consistent boundary rules set by the federal government. So the Metro Area rankings correctly compare apples to apples. In the Metro Area rankings, St. Louis is consistently shown to be safer than Kansas City.

http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2011...Lo-Hi_2011.pdf
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Cleverly concealed
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And as I've mentioned before, not all cities report crimes equally. The definition of sexual assault varies by municipality, and usually doesn't match the federal guideline.
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Tower Grove East, St. Louis, MO
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^Which is why Chicago gets to be conveniently missing from the list!
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Old 10-10-2012, 05:30 PM
 
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And lots of Western European cities have higher violent crime rates than those...

I don't doubt that KC metro has more crime than metro StL, thought the opposite wouldn't surprise me either. The bottom line is they are both pretty rough towns in certain sections, but both cities -- even in their urban cores -- have large swaths of beautiful, charming, safe, urban neighborhoods with very little violence and marginal nuisance or property crime. Much of StL and KC is as safe as any suburb, just not as bland and boring.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Why is this thread back...
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:31 PM
 
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Kansas City has had some great development downtown in several neighborhoods. The crime rates vary by neighborhood. The east side is very bad in KCMO, yes, but most large urban cities in the US have bad neighborhoods in their center cities. Some cities are trying to improve (KCMO for example) and some are decaying in spite of efforts to improve (Detroit, Flint, etc).

Great website for looking up crime rates by neighborhood, not just aggregate crime data by city -- spot crime dot com

Kansas City Neighborhood Crime Maps, Crime Statistics and Real-Time Alerts
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