06-18-2010, 09:08 PM
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Sports riots are a human thing. They happen all over the world. In some cases, they are worse than the one from the Lakers game.
06-18-2010, 09:15 PM
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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[quote=SoCal35;14675747]
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John23
Same thing that allowed the Rodney King riots in 92.
An underclass in LA looking for *any* excuse to cause damage. Even after a Laker *victory*. Haha.
Why would you want to get hauled off to jail after your team *Won*? Does that make any sense?
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As was noted by another poster,
this is NOT unique to LA.
There are plenty of idiots in other cities that do the same thing when their team wins.....happened in Pittsburgh when the Steelers won the Superbowl in 09 and Boston in 08 when the Celtics beat the Lakers.
I am NOT making excuses...just pointing out that a "Sports Riot" is not unique to LA.
Charles posted this link which I thought explained the mind set pretty well:
Sports Riots: The Psychology of Fan Mayhem
True, but I think there are a lot of cities, where you wouldn't find rioting. Portland? Dallas? Kansas City? Omaha?
Plenty of cities with sports teams. It's funny, why aren't there riots after college games? College fans (football or basketball) are rabid and dedicated.
Why aren't there riots after the Rosebowl?
Why aren't there riots after the Olympics?
Why aren't there riots after the Masters, US Open, or even boxing matches in Vegas. I dont think there ever been a riot on the streets of Vegas (for any event) the way there has been in downtown LA.
I know Tyson fights in the 90's drew a somewhat aggressive crowd. But I dont think any of those lead to as many arrests as these laker riots. And they didnt happen over such a wide area.
Why aren't there riots after the final four, or college basketball championship? Esp in states like north carolina, with a lack of pro teams, there are more rabid, die hard college fans.
These laker "fans" are at the tail end of what truely constitutes a "fan", by the national standard. 1/2 drunk, 1/2 hooliganism, and about 1/16 real laker fans, if that. If I was hurt down there after the game (after having attended it), I would really think about suing AEG, or holding them liable. Or someone liable. You should be safe like that in a public area.
06-18-2010, 10:16 PM
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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[quote=John23;14679159]
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SoCal35
When was the last time a Portland or Omaha team won a national championship?
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a riot on the campus of a college that just won a national championship.
Here are a couple of examples:
YouTube - University of Minnesota Hockey Riots
YouTube - The Penn State Riot
YouTube - Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics Protesters riot party downtown
YouTube - 2010 WINTER OLYMPICS RIOT!?!?!!!
06-18-2010, 11:22 PM
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Yep!
They stand corrected, thank you for educating this folks.
06-19-2010, 01:48 AM
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it is really sad we won !!!!!!!!!! we should be celebrating in a nice manner not this way
06-19-2010, 05:07 AM
Location: Southern California
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Regarding why the rioting, I have no idea. I don't even like basketball.
06-19-2010, 07:51 AM
Location: So Cal
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The police used tear gas and rubber bullets? show some ba*** and cap some buckshot in their as***. That should help reduce the violence next time.
06-19-2010, 07:56 AM
Location: So Ca
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John23
These laker "fans" are at the tail end of what truely constitutes a "fan", by the national standard. 1/2 drunk, 1/2 hooliganism, and about 1/16 real laker fans, if that.
And then there are the other, normal fans. Too bad they didn't get a chance to celebrate the Lakers' victory in a non-violent way. (IMO, testosterone and crowd mentality just don't explain this. I truly don't believe that the violent "fans" just needed a crowd to do what they did. In some other way, those "fans" are missing a few chips mentally.)
Sharing a win they didn't see - latimes.com
06-19-2010, 08:11 AM
Location: Sherman Oaks, CA
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If you look at the footage, who is doing the damage? Young men. That's it. And these guys were just using the Lakers' win as an excuse. Large, mostly male crowd + alcohol = bad outcome!
Actually, it bothers me that "mob mentality" is supposed to be an excuse and some sort of free pass. If my son had been involved in this and he called me from jail, I'd leave him there! Anyone in those crowds could have simply walked away if they chose to.
The LAPD should have been more prepared and hired extra officers from other cities if they had to. And none of this BS about having to ask for permission to step up the weapons, either! What if an officer had been killed while permission was being asked?
How did our society become this way? I know that rioting has become more prevalent in recent years, and it doesn't matter whether the team won or lost, but since when did the very social structure disappear? There was a time when this wouldn't have happened, because only a select few would dare do it, and they'd get in serious trouble as a result!
Media coverage doesn't help, either, unless the footage is simply used to catch and incarcerate the troublemakers. Glorify the hoodlums; get them on camera.
Great idea!
06-19-2010, 03:25 PM
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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[quote=John23;14679159]
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SoCal35
There are lots of college sports riots. They probably don't get as much media attention. Indiana University, University of Illinois, Michigan State, Ohio State, University of Maryland, University of Arizona, etc... are just some of the universities where rioting took place after sporting events.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Yep!
Media coverage doesn't help, either, unless the footage is simply used to catch and incarcerate the troublemakers. Glorify the hoodlums; get them on camera. Great idea! 
