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^ it's probably unfair to associate all different types of Hispanic cultures together under that statistic. They can vary widely in type of location they originated from and many urban hispanic dominated neighborhoods do not have such high homicide rates.
I agree with you, but it's easier to put everyone into a box than to go through the trouble of making distinctions.
I was checking the Hispanic pew research center one day, and there are various statistical measurements that show that there are clear differences in income and educational attainment amongst Latin American countries.
With southern south american countries like Chile and Argentina toping many of those rankings.
I have friends from both of those countries (I have family in Chile BTw) and most of them don't appreciate being put in the same box as, let's say, certain Caribbean countries. There's a language in common but the differences are not only cultural but also in ethnic make-up.
It's even more convenient to combine blacks and Hispanic into even a larger box to justify these kind of practices.
^ it's probably unfair to associate all different types of Hispanic cultures together under that statistic. They can vary widely in type of location they originated from and many urban hispanic dominated neighborhoods do not have such high homicide rates.
Couldn't the same thing be said about people Black groups as well then? I don't know of any statistic that goes through that amount of research. It's easier to just group people by race and/or ethnicity. Aside from that what good would it do anyway but create more division and animosity amongst some Hispanic groups? For example, I have some Argentinian friends that think rather highly of themselves as if they are better than other Hispanic groups because they have more European ancestry in some cases than say Hispanics from the Caribbean or other parts of Latin America.
Couldn't the same thing be said about people Black groups as well then? I don't know of any statistic that goes through that amount of research. It's easier to just group people by race and/or ethnicity. Aside from that what good would it do anyway but create more division and animosity amongst some Hispanic groups? For example, I have some Argentinian friends that think rather highly of themselves as if they are better than other Hispanic groups because they have more European ancestry in some cases than say Hispanics from the Caribbean or other parts of Latin America.
Yeah, could probably remove recent African immigrants from the statistics and to a lesser extent Caribbean blacks. As for the Hispanics, it would be nice to see a deeper dive into the statistics to see what portion is made up of American-born PRs vs. Mexicans vs. all other Hispanic origins.
Since most victims of violent crimes also live in black & latino communities, the question for residents is simple, "Are you willing to accept young men in your neighborhood being stopped on average once every 500 days, for the one of the lowest crime rates in all US cities? A murder rate lower than 41 other states?"
People probably argue for one thing on an open forum like CD, and think and react in a different way after coming home to the reality. The questions above is a good questions worth of thinking over. If one does not face and help solve the question within his/her community, the problem will grow and do harm to both the immediate and surrounding communities.
Yeah, could probably remove recent African immigrants from the statistics and to a lesser extent Caribbean blacks. As for the Hispanics, it would be nice to see a deeper dive into the statistics to see what portion is made up of American-born PRs vs. Mexicans vs. all other Hispanic origins.
American born Puerto Ricans? In other words, are you saying that they are the Hispanics doing most of the crime here in NYC? If so how do you come to that conclusion?
American born Puerto Ricans? In other words, are you saying that they are the Hispanics doing most of the crime here in NYC? If so how do you come to that conclusion?
I did not come to that conclusion, but would imagine that a statistic breaking out Hispanics of different origins would be more useful than grouping them all together as one. Do hispanic neighborhoods with a larger PR population not have higher crime? For example, compare bushwick to corona.
I am not sure if you watch the TV show Blue Bloods. There is a good episode (aired 12/13) about racial profiling. I thought it was interesting that the cop was black and the guy profiled was a sikh physician. The cops were supposed to apprehend a middle eastern guy. The guy looked nothing like the sketch but the cop tried to apprehend him and the sikh physician punched him in the nose. Criminals are more compliant than everyday citizens. Things could get messy and innocent people could get killed.
Everyone knows that it's not Asians, and not black or latino females, that far exceed their demographic in violent street crimes.
As has been amply recorded & reported, it's young black & latino males, who commit the bulk of violent street crimes in NYC, and are also subject to closer police scrutiny. "
What kind of mothers do you think these men have if they are out committing violent street crimes?
What kinds of girlfriends (its rarely wives) or sisters do you think they have?
Put it like this, its rather common in this underground for women to have children by multiple men, to never work (at least not legally), etc. And I'm even going to get into the drug trade and prostitution these women are involved in.
So in this situation a trashy man attracts an equally trashy woman, and yes, the women who have children but don't raise them are a huge part of why we have this type of crime in the first place.
Again, you cannot solve a problem unless you cut the root of the problem off at the source.
Yeah, could probably remove recent African immigrants from the statistics and to a lesser extent Caribbean blacks. As for the Hispanics, it would be nice to see a deeper dive into the statistics to see what portion is made up of American-born PRs vs. Mexicans vs. all other Hispanic origins.
Crime states among more recent Caribbean and Hispanics can be grim as well. A different sort of grim, but terrible nonetheless. There's a lot of organized prostitution (often forced) that uses recent Hispanic, Caribbean, and Asian immigrants. Pimping and prostitution are definitely in the stats.
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