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About living there? Or the thugs hanging out there? Or the police stopping them? Or about the police not stopping them?
Again, who said S&F is the only answer?
BTW, murders in Brownsville dropped from 74 in 1993 to 15 last year, shooting victims from 350 to 87, and felonies by 2/3. So something is working. http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloa...s/cs073pct.pdf
Nationally crime is down. The ending of the crack cocaine era, and the fact that many of the worst offenders are dead to due violence towards each other, drug abuse, Aids, and other issues helped as well. Its no longer nearly as easy as is to get welfare as it was in the 1980s. Welfare reformed helped. NYCHA got stricter, and the fact that convicted felons can be banned from NYCHA helped as well.
Lastly, you had something of a backlash from people in these communities towards certain things, such as crack use.
Of course policing helped, and yes, the NYPD and police departments around the nation deserve credit. But to say they are the sole factor is to paint a false picture.
Lastly, the consequences to having a criminal conviction became more severe. You can be denied employment and housing because of a criminal conviction. In that sense employers and landlords used technology to filter out terrible elements, and they helped put the pressure on people.
What makes you, or anyone else, think that the NYPD is targeting "innocent" blacks or hispanics?
If officers SQ&F, then move along, a group of thugs hanging outside a subway exit, eyeballing passersby, and none of the group has any weapons or drugs, so no arrest, is that a failure? Were they "innocent"?
Yet, they & the apologists will complain that they were "stopped for no reason".
You can't be this naive.
How about loitering at 5 PM? On Friday, outside a bank or check-cashing store?
Fare evasion is an arrest, not a stop.
It's never "just because they look a certain way". There is always more. What you are doing is "reverse profiling", which is suggesting that people who look a certain way are only stopped for the way they look, and not for what they are up to, or for matching the description of someone who has just fled a crime scene.
You acknowledge the societal failures that produce violent street criminals, and desire changes that would reduce their number. Police actions can, and do, deter. It's not always who you catch. Sometimes, it's those you dissuade.
In NYC, young Impact officers flood high-crime areas at peak-crime periods, an over-allocation of police resources, over protests of those who call them an occupying force in the 'hoods.
In Chicago, police are divided up fairly equally among all neighborhoods, a balanced allocation of police resources, over protests of those who call for more police in the high-crime 'hoods.
wow .. not only do you hate the freedom to choose to wear helmets..you also apparent have no love for the constitution.. a bleeding liberal if there ever were one.. time for you to also go on ignore..I've no time to deal with fools like you in the future
I swear some people on here sound like...never mind.
Go to west Burnside / Jerome ave out here on any day even on Sundays you'll see mad heads begging for change posted up waiting for you to hit those machines at that chase bank. lol real spit tho.
wow .. not only do you hate the freedom to choose to wear helmets..you also apparent have no love for the constitution.. a bleeding liberal if there ever were one.. time for you to also go on ignore..I've no time to deal with fools like you in the future
Really? Following me from another forum?
Your post is evidence that you require a helmet, or have already sustained a brain injury from not having one!
Thanks for putting me on ignore. Saves me the trouble!
You're not even from here? Man you throw a lot of crap around this section for a non-NY'er.
How about because I'm one of those people that would be stopped and frisked and do not want that stupid crap to leave the state of New York. Parts of Pa. has it's own issues with overzealous cops as it is.
How about because I'm one of those people that would be stopped and frisked and do not want that stupid crap to leave the state of New York. Parts of Pa. has it's own issues with overzealous cops as it is.
Is there more or less crime in PA? Is the bigger issue your overzealous cops or the criminals committing crimes? If you move out of your high crime neighborhood you should have nothing to worry about.
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