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I'll take Michigan any day over the South. If Michigan is any indication on how some of the Southern states are going to be soon, then good luck. You are going to need it. We know how to tough out a bad storm. We are used to many recessions. Michigan has been in a recession for 10 years. Us Northerners are thick-skinned.
I don't care if I was the last person standing up here, there is no way you'd get me to move down there. Maybe Canada or Europe, but sure as heck not down South.
No offense, just not my cup of tea.
What is the meaning behind your screen name? Between you putting down the South and Southerners and talking about getting into fights, I don't find it to make any sense. Is it just irony?
What is the meaning behind your screen name? Between you putting down the South and Southerners and talking about getting into fights, I don't find it to make any sense. Is it just irony?
I didn' go down there looking for a fight, it found me.
Unions in NC would be great! Given decent unions, socialised medicine, and proper urban/suburban planning and infrastructure, I would move back home in a second. As it is, though, I can't quite bring myself to make that leap -- I'll stay in the UK, thanks.
Last time I worked in NC (in 2006) minimum wage was $5.15 an hour and had been that way for about a decade. I was making $6.30/hr at one job, and $7/hr at another, and both of these were supposed to be "good" wages for the work I was doing. I understand it's gone up now (due to a rise in federal minimum wages) but it's still fallen steadily in real terms since the 1970s. A strong union movement would help alleviate that, and lift hundreds of thousands of North Carolinians out of poverty.
That aside, though, in response to the OP, the worst thing about North Carolina, by far, is the RECKLESS SUBURBAN SPRAWL -- for its own sake, but also for its attendant deforestation and other nasty environmental effects, like increased pollution from all those necessitated cars, and from construction and lawn-chemical runoff.
Unions in NC would be great! Given decent unions, socialised medicine, and proper urban/suburban planning and infrastructure, I would move back home in a second. As it is, though, I can't quite bring myself to make that leap -- I'll stay in the UK, thanks.
Last time I worked in NC (in 2006) minimum wage was $5.15 an hour and had been that way for about a decade. I was making $6.30/hr at one job, and $7/hr at another, and both of these were supposed to be "good" wages for the work I was doing. I understand it's gone up now (due to a rise in federal minimum wages) but it's still fallen steadily in real terms since the 1970s. A strong union movement would help alleviate that, and lift hundreds of thousands of North Carolinians out of poverty.
That aside, though, in response to the OP, the worst thing about North Carolina, by far, is the RECKLESS SUBURBAN SPRAWL -- for its own sake, but also for its attendant deforestation and other nasty environmental effects, like increased pollution from all those necessitated cars, and from construction and lawn-chemical runoff.
please stay over in your liberal, socialized little world. we do not need another complainer like you in NC. We have enough complaining yankee transplants. Why are you so bitter. You should try getting over it. Unions are for lazy people. Screw unions. They have done wonders for the american auto worker while ruining the industry. Stay bitter.
And Detroit is nearly 4 times Charlotte's size. Now we see why you are so bitter...
Too funny. Detroit is truly America's armpit. Unions are mainly to blame. I would rather starve to death in NC than live high on the hog in Detroit. I hope that you will stay in wonderful Michigan(unlike half the state that has already moved down to the "Carolinas". BTW-Natives never say that word.
please stay over in your liberal, socialized little world. we do not need another complainer like you in NC. We have enough complaining yankee transplants. Why are you so bitter. You should try getting over it. Unions are for lazy people. Screw unions. They have done wonders for the american auto worker while ruining the industry. Stay bitter.
Gee, uncletupelo, what is about liberals and Yankees that you hate so much? North Carolina isn't all that, and yes, I am a North Carolina native! I've lived here all of my life, and I'm glad that a lot of Yankees and liberals are moving down here to bring about some change here. Now, I don't like how a lot of them complain about life here when they chose to move here, however, I don't like how backwards North Carolina still is in certain areas, either! Other than Charlotte and the larger metro areas in this state, I could care less for the rest of North Carolina.
Last time I worked in NC (in 2006) minimum wage was $5.15 an hour and had been that way for about a decade. I was making $6.30/hr at one job, and $7/hr at another, and both of these were supposed to be "good" wages for the work I was doing. I understand it's gone up now (due to a rise in federal minimum wages) but it's still fallen steadily in real terms since the 1970s. A strong union movement would help alleviate that, and lift hundreds of thousands of North Carolinians out of poverty.
And it would bring down the middle class in North Carolina as well. I agree that more should be done to "level the playing field", but a union is certainly not the answer. Look at the videos of Charlotte and Detroit on New Years I posted and compare (page 17 of this thread Worst thing about NC...) . I have been to Detroit on several occasions due to my job, and that city is VERY depressing. It is the poster child for not becoming too liberal and too unionized. I consider myself to be a liberal, but I think conservatives keep us liberals honest. Neither side of the political spectrum should have TOTAL dominance. Detroit is proof of this fact.
And it would bring down the middle class in North Carolina as well. I agree that more should be done to "level the playing field", but a union is certainly not the answer. Look at the videos of Charlotte and Detroit on New Years I posted and compare (page 17 of this thread Worst thing about NC...) . I have been to Detroit on several occasions due to my job, and that city is VERY depressing. It is the poster child for not becoming too liberal and too unionized. I consider myself to be a liberal, but I think conservatives keep us liberals honest. Neither side of the political spectrum should have TOTAL dominance. Detroit is proof of this fact.
The metropolitan Detroit area is huge. Don't know what part of Detroit you were in, what day of the week, what time, but you obviously don't have a clue what we are really about and what we have to offer.
Yes, the job situation sucks(been there before), but we feel that anything that doesn't kill us, makes us stronger.
I said Michigan, not Detroit, although I love Detroit also. Detroit is only one of many cities/towns in this state. Ever hear of the Great Lakes?
Now concerning the first video(you posted). It is in the early evening and you are looking at the office/ government area of Detroit. People have already left work to go home and are probably home getting ready to go out. Who would be there at that time anyway?
The second video of NC is at 11:30 at night, when most people are out for the evening celebrating.
The third video, well, we have them too. Big deal.
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Here's a video from a suburb just north of Detroit after winning last year's Stanley Cup. If anybody is on here from Pittsburgh, congratulations on winning the cup this year. Great series.
Skip through beginning.
Look, we even have the Detroit Hoedown. Who'd a thot it?
You wouldn't believe how much there is to do here and there is plenty.
I'd be posting the rest of my life, if I were to post everything there is to do in Michigan.
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