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Old 02-13-2016, 06:20 AM
 
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Yeah, I won't even go into all the sacrifices I've made...that's not what this post is about.

I find it hilarious that the woman on another thread is getting beat up because she moved to be with a man she met on FB, but I'm supposed to be perfectly fine & supportive of my ex who up and left for some woman he met on Instagram, who by the way was also married (over 20 years) when they began their romance. Talk about a double standard...

And to those of you who asked, no he rarely picks her up or drops her off without the girlfriend around and he won't even consider spending a weekend here without her to spend quality time with his daughter. It's his way or no way. He's a narcissist only child with a narcissistic, passive aggressive mother. He only surrounds himself with people who support his choices and has cut anyone out who would call him on his BS.
I just want to say that I really respect you and how you avoided trashing dad until the thread got to the point where you had to share the ugly details to try and quiet the pitchforks.

He sounds exactly like what many of us already thought. I'm sorry he did this to your daughter and I think you're being a great supportive mom. You're doing the right things her father is not.

Is your daughter in counseling? It could be helpful so that she can talk about her feelings on dad, you and the whole situation without having to worry about trashing each parent with the other. A neutral voice her to get guidance from.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:25 AM
 
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Yes, it doesn't matter the event. My opinion would be the same.

And it remains that your daughter and ex husband should work it out themselves and you should bow out.
Does it sound like he would totally respect her schedule, opinions and feelings on the subject?

Keep in mind: this is a guy who chose to move 5 hrs away, and thinks it's in his kid's best interest to spend 10 hrs in the car every other weekend.

He doesn't sound that reasonable to me.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:33 AM
 
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So you other activities are more important than your daughter seeing her dad? Good move, mom. Way to get your priorities correct.

Whether or not dad decided to move, you are still mom, and you should still put your daughter's interests first.

You are penalizing your daughter by making visitation hard, because you have spite towards dad.

You make sacrifices for your kids. You don't stop making the sacrifices because the other parent made them bigger than you wanted them to be.
Um, I think your math is off. Daughter would spending the same amount of time in the car whether dad does all the driving or if mom were to drive halfway Due to dad's choices, not mom's.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:23 AM
 
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I would not recommend leaving this up to the daughter to work out with her dad. If she gets sullen and defiant, he will take it out on her and that's not fair.

She is the child in this scenario.It is up to the adults to work out what is in her best interest. If you need to get judges, attorneys, and mediators involved, so be it.

If the custody arrangement was that she be able to continue with her dance, then insist that he work around that.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:38 AM
 
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I think 5 hours if too far to go every other weekend. My friend who is in a position similar to this (greater distance) switched from splitting weeks to only visiting their dad during school breaks. The downside is the kids are gone for most of the summer, every other Christmas, and every other spring break.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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I don't think you should leave it up to her. My mom always played the "bad guy" when I didn't want to go see my dad so he wouldn't be offended.

She is 13 why should she have to tell her dad that I dont want to see you today I have dance. He might take it personal and it could put a strain on your relationship.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:48 AM
 
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OK, I've read most of the responses now. I'm surprised that so many people just see this as the mom being bitter about the divorce. This is a real problem. I don't know how long she'll be allowed to stay on a team where she misses half of the practices. If we were talking about 2 hours, maybe even 3, it might be ok to try to do it every other weekend, but a 5 hour drive each way is just not practical.

I think you should go back to mediation/court and ask for a different schedule with longer, less frequent visits to dad; or dad can come back to town and see her after her practice. Maybe she could visit him during school breaks and on 3-day weekends.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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Yeah, I won't even go into all the sacrifices I've made...that's not what this post is about.

I find it hilarious that the woman on another thread is getting beat up because she moved to be with a man she met on FB, but I'm supposed to be perfectly fine & supportive of my ex who up and left for some woman he met on Instagram, who by the way was also married (over 20 years) when they began their romance. Talk about a double standard...

And to those of you who asked, no he rarely picks her up or drops her off without the girlfriend around and he won't even consider spending a weekend here without her to spend quality time with his daughter. It's his way or no way. He's a narcissist only child with a narcissistic, passive aggressive mother. He only surrounds himself with people who support his choices and has cut anyone out who would call him on his BS.
You were with him at least 10ish years? And he left you, you didn't leave him? I think your anger towards him is getting in the way of your coparenting. Maybe he is the devil...I don't know. But it sounds more like you are very bitter and we are getting one side.

What are you going to do to make the situation better? I agree it's far from ideal. The drive is too much. Missing things as she gets older will be more difficult. I'm neutral on the dance, but things will be more important as she gets into high school. So it's time to sort this out.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:19 AM
 
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You were with him at least 10ish years? And he left you, you didn't leave him? I think your anger towards him is getting in the way of your coparenting. Maybe he is the devil...I don't know. But it sounds more like you are very bitter and we are getting one side.

What are you going to do to make the situation better? I agree it's far from ideal. The drive is too much. Missing things as she gets older will be more difficult. I'm neutral on the dance, but things will be more important as she gets into high school. So it's time to sort this out.
What could the OP possibly do to make this situation better?
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:31 AM
 
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What could the OP possibly do to make this situation better?
Hire a lawyer, mediator, insist on a following of the original visitation orders, suggest to her ex a new visitation schedule. Complaining about it isn't going to change it. We can agree he is wrong, or not...but it doesn't change it.
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