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Palin is a public person. She speaks at political events, operates on a TV show (the definition of public), and is actively floating the idea that she will run for President.
Her words reach millions, and the odds that your poor wording could incite someone to violence increases with the numbers of listeners to your words increase.
If Mrs. Palin said "don't retreat, reload" in the privacy of her own home (when on televised), or at the beauty parlor with no press, then thats fine. But when you are actively speaking publicly trying to push a political and social agenda to other people you have to be more careful with your statements.
Just like if a prominent black leader said "Don't give up on affirmative action, reload your glock" would be a **** poor use of the English language, and could incite someone to violence.
I'm not saying she doesn't have the right to say it, she does, and I'd fight for that. But she has the responsibility to use better wording.
Any evidence that anyone has ever committed an act of violence because of anything Palin has ever said?
Nope, none, not at all.
This shooter was on antidepressents or some other type of psychriatric drug. Just like all other mass killers. Instead of doing something about this we will make these accusations that because someone once said said something it led to violence.
The police should take a look at this guys shrink if they are going to blame anyone else.
One lady very adamnately stated that the biggest problem in our country was that there's no longer prayer in schools. She says our youth have no moral values and don't care.
My take on it, having been tutored in religion and assigned bible verses to memorize each week while I was in the third and fourth grades in McKenzie and Milan, TN is...Thank Goodness At Least One Third Of A Child's Authority Figures Is Not Allowed to Pray And Teach Religion. The parents and the church are already reinforcing the bible to 85% of youngsters in this country. When that percentage of our youth are being brainwashed by 2/3rds of their authority figures what chance does anything else have. Maybe the lady would like it if the government forced a Christian Theocracy on us...Ya Think?
Well if you haven't had thoughts of killing someone maybe it was OK.
Good God, the crap being spewed about Palin, guns, bigotry, you name it... I definately believe that some posters need something more to believe in than gov't and politics. A whole lotta hating going on.
First, I disagree that words like "Don't retreat, reload" are not violent. What comes to my mind when I hear that is, "don't run, stay and shoot."
I think it's certainly reasonable that Palin does share in responsibility for this incident as a result of the synergy created by ALL THE MANY people in the public eye who are using such "loaded" language these days. Could we think in terms of critical mass? It seems to me very possible that this mentally disturbed man just demonstrated teh synergistic effect of longterm use of such violent language of hatred in terms of politics......
Key word....SYNERGY.
Any proof this guy ever heard anything Sarah Palin ever said? Nope.
You think maybe he was listening to lefties instead. They use the same type of language. He shot a judge appointed by George Bush.
Maybe we should haul all lefties before Congress and get to the bottom of what this kid was influenced by.
Any evidence that anyone has ever committed an act of violence because of anything Palin has ever said?
Nope, none, not at all.
This shooter was on antidepressents or some other type of psychriatric drug. Just like all other mass killers. Instead of doing something about this we will make these accusations that because someone once said said something it led to violence.
The police should take a look at this guys shrink if they are going to blame anyone else.
I never said there was, did I?
I'm saying that at a time when things like this happen, its at least good for people to look at what they are saying and that the potential is there for people to take words out of context. Insane people will always be insane, and will always find a way. I'm saying that we should limit those excuses to as few as is humanly possible, and our public citizens have the responsibility to use better wording than "don't retreat, reload".
The only official I completely disagreed with was the "second amendment solution to the congress", but the fair people of Nevada saw fit to not elect such a moron, and I applaud them for doing so.
I just think it is silly that people try and make Palin responsible for this when the left has done the exact same thing.
There is no evidence whatsoever that this kid even paid attention to anything Palin ever said. But people want to blame her? LOLs. Total nonsense.
Thsi kid was mentally unstable. He went to a shrink and got on antidepressents. He turned violent. The exact same thing that happened with the Columbine killers, John Hinckly, the Ft Hood shooter, the VaTech shooter and practically every other mass killer in U.S. history.
Book it.
I agree with you. I admit, I was quick to criticize Palin yesterday and associate her with this shooting, but I now believe that I was wrong.
The shooter could have been inspired by anyone or any group, but ultimately, he is the one responsible for his actions.
First, I disagree that words like "Don't retreat, reload" are not violent. What comes to my mind when I hear that is, "don't run, stay and shoot."
Not what comes to my mind. If you look at what else Palin said it was obvious she was saying "Don't give up, stay and fight". And it had nothing to do with violence.
It's no different than a politician saying "We're going to Washington and we're gonna fight for the American people". Should we hold them accountable for encouraging violence. Fight implies violence.
Of course, anyone can things and make them fit a political agenda. It's a shortcut to thinking. Something the left is pretty good at.
Absolutely, some of the things he has said have been over the line.
I have said numerous times in this thread that both parties, leaders, and public citizens should take this as a time to temper their tongues and speak using better non-violent wording.
The politicians and media do this because it appeals to the masses. Violent terms draw attention.
American TV and movies often depict violence as unavoidable, also as justified. The hero is a hero because he triumphed by the use of violence. The masses love this.
Any evidence that anyone has ever committed an act of violence because of anything Palin has ever said?
Nope, none, not at all.
This shooter was on antidepressents or some other type of psychriatric drug. Just like all other mass killers. Instead of doing something about this we will make these accusations that because someone once said said something it led to violence.
The police should take a look at this guys shrink if they are going to blame anyone else.
How do you know the man was on "antidepressents" (sic)? Do you have a link or something to back up that assertion?
asking if there is any "evidence" that "anyone" has ever committed an act of violence because of anything Palin has ever said is just silly. You have no idea how many "acts of violence" may have been committed in the privacy of people's homes as a result of anything Palin may have said.
Palin is part of a well-known group of people who are read and heard by millions of people in this country, and that group has been very careless with their language, and they love the shock effect of violent imagery with words. Together, those people (group) have had a synergistic effect which is being reflected by the acts of violence by people who live on the edge of mental stability.
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