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Prior to reading the op's post I wouldn't have thought it possible someone would attempt to use the Arizona tragedy as an excuse to flaunt their personal anti-religious agenda. I should have known better.
I was posting about the calls to the CSPAN hot line concerning rep. Giffords's tragedy. Would you like to hear about the major number of callers who blamed Sarah Palin and Fox News?
About the religious angle 85% of the public gets their way about religion...can't you cut the 15% of us a little slack occasionally?
Congress person was shot by somebody with some pretty deranged political views. Sorry, but it's IMPOSSIBLE to leave politics out of this.
Yeah.
Now I don't care for Palin's little list at all and I hope that the former gov. rethinks her inflammatory rhetoric now, and I actually believe that she will.
But there seems to be no evidence that he was influenced by her list or even knew it existed or who was on it.
I think he was influenced "politically" but that the influence probably came from elsewhere.
I choose to live in a free country. As such, I understand the inherent risk of doing that. I don't have to be searched by the police when I leave my house, neither does a armed robber. Anything can happen to me on a daily basis.
As long as I can maintain the freedoms I enjoy, and I have the ability to defend myself if the situation arises, then its worth the risk.
Lunatics will always kill people, they'll always find a way, an excuse, and a means. Restricting our freedoms would do nothing but to encourage further nut job action.
On this we agree.
I wonder if more couldn't be done for the mentally ill - but I don't know what can be done if they don't seek services or medications offered.
Mostly mentally ill people don't end up committing terribly violent acts. At the same time - they may be a whole lot more susceptible to drugs, music lyrics, political debate, and a lot of other things the rest of us at least me aren't affected by.
The voices in their heads can be what causes them to do something but also they might be more easily led by other psychotics - like the Manson cult. Those were some strange people. Or the Jim Jones, or Waco cult - people will follow certain leaders. But many other cults exist and we never even notice them.
I was posting about the calls to the CSPAN hot line concerning rep. Giffords's tragedy. Would you like to hear about the major number of callers who blamed Sarah Palin and Fox News?
About the religious angle 85% of the public gets their way about religion...can't you cut the 15% of us a little slack occasionally?
I'd argue you were cherry picking in the hope of bolstering your personal agenda.
As far as the Palin and Fox news comments go your stand on both of them is well known and comments regarding both are being made ad nauseam in a plethora of other threads.
I'm afraid when somebody says "Don't retreat, reload" they have to be held accountable for their rhetoric. When you combine her comments with using crosshairs to denote Congressional districts that should be "Targeted" the combination is one that leads to an enviormment where people with extreme views advocate violence. As a public figure Sarah Palin is responsible for contributing to the tone of political discourse in this country.
Palin is not a public figure. She is a private citizen that sometimes is in the public eye. Big difference.
Is there any evidence whatsoever that this guy did this because of anything Palin said? No. So what is with the slander?
And what about the lefties that do the exact same thing. Daily KOS put a bullseye on the same district and said they were targeting the Congresswoman in order to put a more liberal member in her place.
Was DailyKOS advocating violence? And why do you only point out Palin?
There is nothing wrong with saying "Don't retreat, reload". Nothing violent about it.
That's all it is. Just a sense that he acted alone. Can you imagine him enlisting an accomplice in his insane, murderous plot, showing that person his rantings.......could there really be another that has the mentality of this kid?
You were right. Authorities have talked to the second person they believed may have been involved in the shooting, and it turns out that the guy was a taxi driver who brought the shooter to the mall, and had nothing to do with the incident. Taxi driver said that when they got to the mall, the passenger (later shooter) said he didn't have change, so the two of them went into the grocery store together, came out together, and then went their separate ways. So, the shooter took a taxi to the Congress On Your Corner meeting.
I don't think she is trying to push her agenda. These things freak people out and I thinks it's only natural that people would try to find a logical explanation for such a(n) horrendous act.
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