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1) Student Loans - That wasn't that hard was it?
2) Woman rarely buy condoms. That's a "man thing" and part of her testimony was about using BC as a form of preventative medication. Granted she did not focus on that part at the beginning or long enough but that was a part of it.
Here is the thing. If she would have gone the route of BC for preventative reasons (not preventing pregnancy but cysts and stuff like that) she would have had a better case. The Pope gave an "out" for condoms when used to prevent the spread of AIDs (and I think other diseases). Get the preventative medication piece okay-ed by the church and then they just have to deal with lying to the insurance people, their Doctor and where appropriate their God.
Did you not read her testimony? She was quite clear that she has a friend with POS who was denied b.c. pills because the priests can't grasp that they might be used for anything but contraception. That woman is now probably unable to conceive when she'd like to start a family. And the Pope giving condoms a pass merely highlights the fact that this issue is more about control over women than sexuality...a position taken to the
extreme that would deny hormonal therapy to women based on ignorance.
No thanks...I'll pass on whatever some "sage" on FaceBook has to say about anything at all. You have repeatedly posted things about Ms. Fluke
that are untrue, and have yet to cite a reputable source to buttress such remarks. Read the testimony. That puts you on a par with Limbaugh; dishonest and consumed with self-importance. No doubt Carbonite is quaking at the thought of of losing your business. You've posted plenty of defamatory statements regarding Ms. Fluke...back them up with actual testimony or be content with knowing that sensible posters will always take your posts with a grain of salt, if they don't ignore you outright.
Oh, so you are a "sensible poster", I suppose? LOL What have I said about her that is untrue? She is an political activist, and has been for many years. That is not untrue. She has a history.
And I can call her a sl_t if I so choose if I feel such an active sex life, as she apparently has by her own testimony, makes her one. That is my view. Sorry if you don't agree. That is your choice.
The article I posted was from a writer. She just also happens to be on my FB 'friends' list.
I couldn't care any less what leftists think of me. I'm here to expose them.
I'd like to see that myself, but I seriously doubt that we'll get a straight
answer. Some posters make an effort to support their statements, while others are simply interested in making inflammatory or demeaning posts about anyone that disagrees with their shallow thinking. The posters who repeat endlessly the lie that Sandra Fluke "wants people to pay for her birth control," when her testimony was primarily about a friend who has polycystic ovary syndrome and needed hormonal treatment which the
university refused to cover in their health care package, even though the students pay for that service, are not the kind of people who are paying attention to facts...they just enjoy being as crude and insulting as Rush.
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Leader Pelosi, Members of Congress, good morning, and thank you for calling this hearing on women’s health and allowing me to testify on behalf of the women who will benefit from the Affordable Care Act contraceptive coverage regulation.
Well she sure seems to be trying to speak on "behalf of the women."
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I attend a Jesuit law school that does not provide contraception coverage in its student health plan. Just as we students have faced financial, emotional, and medical burdens as a result, employees at religiously affiliated hospitals and universities across the country have suffered similar burdens.
Breaking News!
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BENTONVILLE, Ark. – Sept. 27, 2007 – Walmart Stores, Inc. (NYSE: WMT) today announced phase two of its $4 prescription program with changes that will help even more Americans deal with the high-cost of healthcare. The program – which has already saved Americans more than $610 million in its first year – has been expanded in two key ways:
More medicines covering more categories – Important prescription medicines have been added to the $4 program covering glaucoma, attention deficit disorder/attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADD/ADHD), fungal infections and acne. Fertility and prescription birth control will also be included at $9, compared to national average prices ranging from $24 to $30 per month and saving women an estimated $15 to $21 per month – $180 to $250 annually.
Forty percent of female students at Georgetown Law report struggling financially as a result of this policy. One told us of how embarrassed and powerless she felt when she was standing at the pharmacy counter, learning for the first time that contraception wasn’t covered, and had to walk away because she couldn’t afford it. Women like her have no
choice but to go without contraception.
$9/month is making you want to jump out of a moving car at high speed. For wanting to be lawyers their ability to investigate anything, especially if it's for their "health," is absolutely appalling.
I doubt they knew it was an orgainized effort. They were played like a fiddle, and I wrote to Carbonite and told them so.
After all, Rush's comments were hardly offensive at all. It was all in good fun, as usual, and he was not attacking activist Fluke per se but attacking her message and her demand that the University provide birth control for her and other women who "couldn't afford it." (right )
He actually only inferred that she was a sl_t, by her own testomony of how much she needed to spend. She was obviously having a lot of sex. That makes her a sl_t in almost anybody's book (unless you are a liberal, I guess, and they have no morals ... goes without saying).
Once again--birth control pills are not viagra. You do not take them whenever you have sex. You HAVE to take them every day. You get a month long prescription--21 days are horomones, and then you either take no pill or a placebo for seven days so you have a period. You can't start and stop it at will--YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT EVERY DAY, WHETHER YOU'RE HAVING SEX OR NOT. The pill costs exactly the same if you have ZERO sex during the month, or if you're having it multiple times a day. Are you really that ignorant?
Second, even Rush admits that what he said was awful. He called her a **** and a prostitute--how is that not directed at her personally? Unfortunately, he's trying to pass it off as a joke now. I'm a republican woman, I have a great sense of humor, and I'm not laughing.
Oh, so you are a "sensible poster", I suppose? LOL What have I said about her that is untrue? She is an political activist, and has been for many years. That is not untrue. She has a history.
And I can call her a sl_t if I so choose if I feel such an active sex life, as she apparently has by her own testimony, makes her one. That is my view. Sorry if you don't agree. That is your choice.
The article I posted was from a writer. She just also happens to be on my FB 'friends' list.
I couldn't care any less what leftists think of me. I'm here to expose them.
Please c & p the portions of her testimony that refer to her personal sexual history. I could care less if the Pope himself wrote whatever is on FaceBook...what a lame way of trying to avoid providing the forum with
the exact words of Ms. Fluke that discuss her sex life which you continue to insist are there. You may believe that you're exposing liberals, but you succeed only in exhibiting the propensity of the RW to lie and debase others at will. Enlighten us by supporting your opinions with the facts from Ms. Fluke's testimony that helped you to formulate your position.
Once again--birth control pills are not viagra. You do not take them whenever you have sex. You HAVE to take them every day. You get a month long prescription--21 days are horomones, and then you either take no pill or a placebo for seven days so you have a period. You can't start and stop it at will--YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT EVERY DAY, WHETHER YOU'RE HAVING SEX OR NOT. The pill costs exactly the same if you have ZERO sex during the month, or if you're having it multiple times a day. Are you really that ignorant?
Second, even Rush admits that what he said was awful. He called her a **** and a prostitute--how is that not directed at her personally? Unfortunately, he's trying to pass it off as a joke now. I'm a republican woman, I have a great sense of humor, and I'm not laughing.
These advertisers will soon realize that they have been played like a fiddle by leftist activists whose only purpose was to silence the free speech of one of their hated critics.
I doubt any who contacted these companies are actual customers. It's obvious they aren't even listeners of the Rush Limbaugh show. They only knew of his choice of words from the "watchdogs" whose only purpose in life is to monitor such shows, looking for the "golden opportunity" to rid the airwaves of conservative speech.
When these efforts are successful, America suffers.
Leftists hate free speech.
Oh, quit being such a drama queen. No "leftist" strong-armed those companies into dropping their advertising. They did it because they decided that association with him would not be the best thing for their business. It's called a free market.
And no one is stopping Rush from saying anything he wants. But that doesn't mean that everyone has to like it. He's very rich, and I'm sure he'll find a way stay on the air and keep saying dumb ****. So what's the big deal? Nobody's free speech is infringed upon.
Here's the link to her actual testimony. NOWHERE does she talk about her personal situation. EVER. She does talk about how friends who require hormonal birth control to treat medical conditions are having to pay it out of pocket, and how the Blunt bill would make it even more difficult for women to receive care for those medical conditions. She also talks about how services that provide contraceptive care for low income women are overwhelmed, that clinics are closing, and that women are turned away--that access to the care depends on what's available in your area vs. being routinely covered on health care insurance at catholic supported universities.
I'm really shocked at the amount of hate spewed at women that I've seen on this forum. Some of you have said things that decent people would never say--it's like you're feral children that grew up in locked rooms where someone threw you some occasional food, vs. being raised in a family that taught you basic manners and values. This whole conversation has been a real eye opener for me. If this hatred and fear is the view of people in power in this country, then they don't deserve to lead. I hope that translates into action in the polls in November. You might call yourselves republicans, but you are not part of the party I've supported for the last 40 years.
It also points out how Repugs would rather believe the lies and refuse to read what Ms. Fluke actually said....they ARE sheep who just take their God Rush's word ...they canNOT think for themselves.....
they're having too much fun wallowing like pigs in their misogynist slop...
Well maybe she should put down the $.50 cup of coffee per day and she wouldn't need to go in front of congress and tell bald face lies.
I think you need to understand the issue a little better before you accuse someone of telling bold faced lies. What she said was pretty much right on target.
$1000 a year would not only include the prescription, but the doctor's visits, which would also not be covered. You have to be seen by a physician to go on the pill, and then do follow-up monitoring, because some women have serious side effects, and the pill can aggravate some preexisting health conditions. Since the pill adds additional progesterone and estrogen to your body, different brands can and can't be tolerated by some women. Just because Walmart offers $9.00 a month generic birth control pills doesn't mean that many women can take them. Walmart offers the $9 generics for only two different types--I checked it out--when a much broader range of BC pills to deal with different women's bodies and needs are offered at a much higher price. If you are using the pill to treat a medical condition, the costs of care and monitoring (lab work, etc.) would be even higher.
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