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If that's not your intention then you should really stop with the "why aren't black people upset about this incident" or "why doesn't that incident get as much attention"
Unless you go door to door and do a test on every black person in the world you don't know what all black people are thinking. I, for one, have posted many comments about the case that have NOTHING to do with race and everything to do with what I feel is sloppy police work but my comments get overlooked so posters can harp on the comments that justify them saying "black people are trying to make this about race" Perhaps some posters are seeking out those comments because that's what they want to talk about.
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Actually I saw video and photos of the demonstrations, there weren't that many people there and they were 100% black. The whitest skin in the place belonged to Ben Jealous.
Why is the race of demonstrators even an issue?
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Of course none of it is acceptable, so why is the "black community" all up in arms about this story when 17 year old black kids die from gunshot wounds every day around this country at the hands of other black people and you never hear about it...
Don't know who this black community is but I do know a large majority of the Central FL community is all up in arms...not just the black ones.
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White people outnumber black people by a very large margin in this country and black people still shoot each other way more often than white people shoot black people. That young black man (is he a man now... in order to pull at the heart strings you guys have been making him out to be a helpless baby but now all of a sudden he's a man?) stands a much higher chance of getting shot by another black man than any evil fat, whitish guy.
I have no idea what your intent was behind this post except maybe to say that black men are violent and are going to get shot by other black men...but lets not talk about race, right?
It appears that the very same people who complain about others making this "all about race" are the ones who keep contributing racial comments.
I've been reading the thread since ovcatto began the first one, and George looks whiter than some of the Sicilians and Greeks that I grew up with. His father is white, his mother a Latina. He's married to a white woman. The race issue isn't that relevant...it's do people who are "other" have the right to walk where it's legal to walk. A seventeen year-old young man is dead because of a trigger-happy male. That's the topic of the thread. You're perfectly free to start a thread that focuses on the shooter's race or ethnicity, but this one is for discussing Zimmerman's crime, how it happened and the desultory way in which local LE handled it...Zimmerman is still a free man. Some of us find that curious.
I've been reading the thread since ovcatto began the first one, and George looks whiter than some of the Sicilians and Greeks that I grew up with. His father is white, his mother a Latina. He's married to a white woman. The race issue isn't that relevant...it's do people who are "other" have the right to walk where it's legal to walk. A seventeen year-old young man is dead because of a trigger-happy male. That's the topic of the thread. You're perfectly free to start a thread that focuses on the shooter's race or ethnicity, but this one is for discussing Zimmerman's crime, how it happened and the desultory way in which local LE handled it...Zimmerman is still a free man. Some of us find that curious.
Yes - but you implied in your earlier post that he was white. If you truly see race as irrelevant - then why mention it?
Yes - but you implied in your earlier post that he was white. If you truly see race as irrelevant - then why mention it?
Because the thread had drifted into focusing on Zimmerman's race; if he chose to self-identify as an Hispanic, it doesn't negate the half that's Jewish (which isn't Caucasian but considered white). This last post was an attempt to draw the dialogue back to the death of Trayvon; I hope that can happen now.
No matter what the circumstances, you are most likely on the side of the scruffy, fat low life Zimmerman (or at the very least will give him the greatest benefit of the doubt).
And because even though this is America, young Black men should not dare walk down a street if he is not personally known to every White (or Whitish) person in the vicinity, or if he does not have his "negro slave pass" from good ole massa that would allow him to leave the plantation. Otherwise, the young Black man is subject to being shot by any good, upstanding White (or Whitish) citizen.
We get your position Hot Handz. No doubt about it.
You are right... Zimmerman wanting to keep whites and his kind leading white America since they know damn well that whites will never let that happen. "if you can't beat em, join em. Zimmerman alerting 911 to discribe the allege threat. Dispatcher "what race is he, black or hispanic?" Zimmerman, "black." Neighbors report that Zimmerman was going around knocking on the door to be on the look out for young black males. Why? could it be to join the team? when Obama won presidency 70% of his votes were Hispanic votes. why didn't they vote for the more hispanic appealing one. b/c they wanted to know how much power they have with their population.
I'm not even going to begin to speculate what I don't know much of anything about. You'll have to ask a latina to explain why latino males are so hung up on machismo nonsense. All I'm saying is when they act like this they aren't men to me. Same is true for any color or creed. I lose all respect for males like these.
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I listened to the call, the dispatcher didn't tell him to stay in his vehicle or to not get out of his car like many people have said over and over again. He made a recommendation of "we don't need you to do that" which Zimmerman didn't take like he should have but he did not order him to stay in his vehicle.
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I never said or meant anything like that, I feel that people of all races and backgrounds are concerned about this story. I'm white and I'm concerned about this story because it appears that an innocent 17 year old was shot and killed by a man who was legally carrying a concealed handgun. As a legal handgun owner and carrier I think this really drives home the responsibility that carrying a self defense weapon brings along with it.
I do feel that many black people are doing what they can to make this situation about race which in my opinion it is not, people of other races care but they aren't trying to exploit this death for political reasons like many prominent black people seem to be doing. I truly believe that a 17 year old Caucasian or Latino would have ended up dead just like Trayvon did.
There is no lie too sleazy low down you aren't willing to peddle. Leave this thread and don't come back. You're an embarrassment to humanity.
The race issue isn't that relevant...it's do people who are "other" have the right to walk where it's legal to walk. A seventeen year-old young man is dead because of a trigger-happy male.
I don't believe race was irrelevant to the perpetrator. If Trayvon were another color I don't believe he would have been tried, convicted, and executed in the first place.
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