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Yes, I know the question of his birthplace was raised during the campaign.
The people of Hawaii claim him as their native son. He was raised there from the age of 10 (or so) until he graduated from high school. His mother and grandparents were residents of Hawaii. That gives him status as a "native son" regardless of whether he was born there or elsewhere. I don't fault the people of Hawaii for the pride they have that someone from their state was elected president. I think that Kenyans also claim him as one of "their own" and some Indonesians may also feel that way about him.
Your faith in the "people of Hawaii" is just that--a belief, a "faith". I like to believe that people are basically good and want to do and be their best but that doesn't mean I throw out that blanket assessment to every single person I meet. And I am very reluctant to throw that out to most of the people who go into politics as a career or are political insiders. They may go in with good intentions but good intentions won't get you very far in that world.
Then you are trying to change the definition of "native son".
Doesn't that strike you as reaching? You are so entrenched in defending the possibility that President Obama wasn't born in Hawaii that you are changing the definition of "native son", and asserting that Hawaiians so desperately want a native son in the White House that they would want their government to hide the fact that Obama wasn't a native son.
My faith isn't in the people of Hawaii. My faith is that the people of Hawaii are just like all the rest of us Americans. They want a President that meets the requirements outlined in the Constitution. They vote for the candidate that they think will do the best job. And if it had come out during the Democratic primaries that Obama wasn't eligible, then it wouldn't have been any skin off Hawaiians' noses, just like it wouldn't have been any skin off Californians' noses. There were other candidates, and the process would have proceeded, and the Republican officials in Hawaii who revealed that Obama wasn't eligible wouldn't have lost friends or reputation.
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I didn't address any years before the age of 10; only stating that Hawaiians consider him a "native son" because his mother and grandparents were residents and that Obama lived there with his grandparents from the age of 10 until he graduated from high school.
I didn't address any years before the age of 10; only stating that Hawaiians consider him a "native son" because his mother and grandparents were residents and that Obama lived there with his grandparents from the age of 10 until he graduated from high school.
Hawaiians consider him a native son because he was born in Hawaii.
That is what native son means.
Your assertion that Hawaiians consider him a native son because his mother and grandparents were residents and that Obama lived there with his grandparents from the age of 10 until graduation is speculation that goes against logic. Hawaiians know what "native son" means, even more than most Americans, because of the ethnicity of Hawaii.
in one bit of recent birther comedy sheriff joe arpaio is now claiming that all the GOP candidates ( romney, gingrich, santorum* and paul ) are conspiring to keep obama's eligibility a secret:
Then you are trying to change the definition of "native son". Not so. I never even defined "native son". I said that Hawaiians embrace him as their "native son". Some Kenyans do the same thing because his father was Kenyan.
Doesn't that strike you as reaching? You are so entrenched in defending the possibility that President Obama wasn't born in Hawaii that you are changing the definition of "native son", and asserting that Hawaiians so desperately want a native son in the White House that they would want their government to hide the fact that Obama wasn't a native son. That's your interpretation and you are reaching for meanings into what I said that are not there and that I did not say. I said earlier that it at this point it is irrelevant where he was born. What's done is done and it won't mean diddly squat about the last 3 1/2 years.
My faith isn't in the people of Hawaii. My faith is that the people of Hawaii are just like all the rest of us Americans. They want a President that meets the requirements outlined in the Constitution. They vote for the candidate that they think will do the best job. And if it had come out during the Democratic primaries that Obama wasn't eligible, then it wouldn't have been any skin off Hawaiians' noses, just like it wouldn't have been any skin off Californians' noses. There were other candidates, and the process would have proceeded, and the Republican officials in Hawaii who revealed that Obama wasn't eligible wouldn't have lost friends or reputation. You are only speculating as to what might have happened had there been anyone who knew otherwise--either before or after he was elected. No one can say "what might have been".
In 5 years or less it will be a running joke. This battle should have been fought 4 years ago.
Are you accusing the media of not doing the vetting job that the Democrat party also failed to do? Hmmm, the media did such a great job on Sarah Palin but for some reason refused to do anything toward Obama.
If you can bring yourself to read and comprehend what I said, you will see that I did not claim that there is anything to prove that Obama was not born in Hawaii. I said there is some compelling evidence that the birth certificate he presented was a forgery and that is the only issue I addressed.
In this case, nice lady, he jumped in just as he does so often and didn't read your post well enough to see what you said. I am pretty stupid but I read your words and saw just what you are saying now.
And if you can bring yourself to stop chasing red herring and comprehend the only genuine issue here, you will see that it does not matter what you claimed.
Obama was born in Hawaii and is therefore a natural born citizen.
Have you noticed who the vast majority of posters here are and what side they take on about every thread on this forum? If so can you see what keeps these threads alive for so long?
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