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Old 04-10-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
This one is not that at all and can't be a copy since the original has been locked in their safe since the beginning.
the LFBC is a direct, and certified, copy from the records on file with the hawaiian DOH.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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You don't know he wasnt connected. He might have been in a covert way.
so might have boris and natasha.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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Is there a chance that the State of Hawaii will some day show he original certificate? This one is not that at all and can't be a copy since the original has been locked in their safe since the beginning.
Nope.

And the birth certificate generated by the state when someone shows up and wants their birth certificate and is willing to pay the fee, is just as legitimate as the original. Because all a birth certificate does is assert that if you are challenged by someone, the state will affirm the information on the birth certificate. Like the State of Hawaii has publicly affirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. Their affirmation renders the birth certificate irrelevant. Since their affirmation is the entire purpose of the birth certificate.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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Nope.

And the birth certificate generated by the state when someone shows up and wants their birth certificate and is willing to pay the fee, is just as legitimate as the original. Because all a birth certificate does is assert that if you are challenged by someone, the state will affirm the information on the birth certificate. Like the State of Hawaii has publicly affirmed that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. Their affirmation renders the birth certificate irrelevant. Since their affirmation is the entire purpose of the birth certificate.
The issue were misalignments that are purported to be on the internet copy of the birth certificate, not the credibility of Hawaii state employees.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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Native son means born there. It doesn't mean anything else. You are asserting that it has a broader meaning. That's false.

You are speculating that before the election of Obama that Republican officials in the state who were in a position to know whether Obama was born in Hawaii or not, chose to become part of the conspiracy to hide Obama's birthplace. You first speculated that it was for job security. When that was shown to be untrue, you speculated that it was to avoid becoming social outcasts, because the Hawaiian people per your opinion are so corrupt and jaded, that they would want their elected officials to be a part of a vast conspiracy to hide Obama's true origins just to get someone who lived there for 8 years elected into office. And then you tell me, "No one can say what might have been." Irony, much?
I speculated it might be for "job security". That statement does not exclude other considerations, such as the ones I mentioned in the subsequent posts. There are many reasons people keep their mouths shut. Sometimes someone makes them "an offer they can't refuse". That would be another good reason to keep one's mouth shut.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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I speculated it might be for "job security". That statement does not exclude other considerations, such as the ones I mentioned in the subsequent posts. There are many reasons people keep their mouths shut. Sometimes someone makes them "an offer they can't refuse". That would be another good reason to keep one's mouth shut.
Like withholding federal funding if they spoke.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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the LFBC is a direct, and certified, copy from the records on file with the hawaiian DOH.
You mean a fake certified copy based on false information.
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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You mean a fake certified copy based on false information.
so now your contending that they had an official LFBC, but with false information on it, and ....... still forged another separate LFBC containing the same information as the original LFBC ?

wow. that's talent.
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Lol, people are still going on about this?
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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The issue were misalignments that are purported to be on the internet copy of the birth certificate, not the credibility of Hawaii state employees.
If the credibility of Hawaii state employees or officials isn't an issue, then the misalignments on an internet copy is necessarily a non-issue.
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