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Old 09-13-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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How I Earned Obama's Rage | Dinesh D'Souza


D' Souza was on Lou Dobbs program.
And hyperbolic stupidity ensued.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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You know if D'Souza movie, books and statements would all be ignored if we didn't see it happening before our eyes. Of course, many are blinded by Obama's hype and the fact he is the first black president so they refuse to watch, to our countries and their detrement.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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You know if D'Souza movie, books and statements would all be ignored if we didn't see it happening before our eyes. Of course, many are blinded by Obama's hype and the fact he is the first black president so they refuse to watch, to our countries and their detrement.
It's amazing to see how liberals are so entrenched that they don't even want to *appear* open minded.
They would be doing themselves a favor because they'd be making a decision based on information. They can reject it or accept it, it's up to them. But at least they'd know it's their conclusion, not what somebody else told them to think.

Seems like they prefer to be mediatrons - useful tools in somebody else's agenda.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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It's amazing to see how liberals are so entrenched that they don't even want to *appear* open minded.
They would be doing themselves a favor because they'd be making a decision based on information. They can reject it or accept it, it's up to them. But at least they'd know it's their conclusion, not what somebody else told them to think.

Seems like they prefer to be mediatrons - useful tools in somebody else's agenda.
How are the liberals the ones who are entrenched. They're not the ones pushing the tired, old, conspiracy theory that's been debunked NUMEROUS times. Contrary to what D'Souza and his supporters believe, not everyone who defends Obama is brainwashed by him. There are plenty of actions by the President I do not support (for example, the drones). But while I would enjoy seeing some reasonable criticism of him by people using actual evidence, I do not enjoy seeing these conspiracy theories getting thrown around again and again. I will not respect these conspiracy theorists because they are not entitled to my respect.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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How are the liberals the ones who are entrenched. They're not the ones pushing the tired, old, conspiracy theory that's been debunked NUMEROUS times. Contrary to what D'Souza and his supporters believe, not everyone who defends Obama is brainwashed by him. There are plenty of actions by the President I do not support (for example, the drones). But while I would enjoy seeing some reasonable criticism of him by people using actual evidence, I do not enjoy seeing these conspiracy theories getting thrown around again and again. I will not respect these conspiracy theorists because they are not entitled to my respect.
Nobody is asking you to respect them. But, if you haven't seen the movie, you're not speaking from a base of knowledge of what is presented in the movie, and how it is presented.

How do you feel about Obama's socialist views and does it not raise a flag in your mind that the Communist Party has endorsed Obama? Evidently, they approve of his agenda because it fits like a glove with theirs. Do you approve of their agenda?
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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A movie the regurgitates the claims of the author in books he published years before. I had friends who went to see the movie. They read D'Souza's book. He presents nothing new ,and the movie, like his books are just "dressed" up conspiracy mongering that he is known for.

A Hillary supporter who lost. That's his claim to fame.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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Nobody is asking you to respect them. But, if you haven't seen the movie, you're not speaking from a base of knowledge of what is presented in the movie, and how it is presented.

How do you feel about Obama's socialist views and does it not raise a flag in your mind that the Communist Party has endorsed Obama? Evidently, they approve of his agenda because it fits like a glove with theirs. Do you approve of their agenda?
The Communist Party endorsed Obama because they know that they have zero chance of getting a member of their own into the White House.

How do you feel about the fact that actual socialists are saying that Obama is not a socialist.
Actual socialist Bernie Sanders: No, Obama is not a socialist | The Raw Story
Ask the card-carrying socialists: Is Obama one of them? - CNN.com
A Real Socialist Explains Why Obama Isn
Socialists: Obama's not one of us - POLITICO.com
New York Socialists: Barack Obama Is Not a Socialist - New York - News - Runnin' Scared
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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The Communist Party endorsed Obama because they know that they have zero chance of getting a member of their own into the White House.

How do you feel about the fact that actual socialists are saying that Obama is not a socialist.
Actual socialist Bernie Sanders: No, Obama is not a socialist | The Raw Story
Ask the card-carrying socialists: Is Obama one of them? - CNN.com
A Real Socialist Explains Why Obama Isn
Socialists: Obama's not one of us - POLITICO.com
New York Socialists: Barack Obama Is Not a Socialist - New York - News - Runnin' Scared
Well, then, if they don't consider him a socialist, then perhaps he really is closer to a communist. I was trying to be nice, but you made me say it.

Why else would the Communist Party feel they can identify with him?
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:30 PM
 
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Obama's America: Unmaking the American Dream: Dinesh D'Souza: 9781596987784: Amazon.com: Books

Book Description

Publication Date: August 13, 2012
America as we know it—wealthy, powerful, assertive—is not what Obama wants. He wants a smaller America, a poorer America, an America unable to exert its will, an America happy to be one power among many, an America in decline so that other nations might rise—all in the name of global fairness. To Obama, the hated “one percent” isn’t just wealthy Americas; it is America itself. In Obama’s view, America needs to be taken down a notch.

That is the startling conclusion of bestselling author Dinesh D’Souza in Obama’s America. Building on his previous New York Times bestseller The Roots of Obama’s Rage—which Newt Gingrich called “Stunning…the most profound insight I have read in the last six years”—D’Souza shows how Obama’s goal to downsize America is in plain sight but ignored by everyone.

D’Souza lays out what Obama plans to do in a second administration—a makeover of America so drastic that the “shining city on a hill” will become a shantytown in a rather dangerous global village. Arresting in its presentation and sobering in its conclusions, Obama’s America is essential reading for those who want to change America’s course before it’s too late.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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How I Earned Obama's Rage | Dinesh D'Souza


D' Souza was on Lou Dobbs program.
Since you linked the story.

From your link:
Well, the undisputed fact is that the Export-Import Bank awarded more than $2 billion in loans and loan guarantees to Brazil. The Export-Import Bank is a U.S. government agency and policy for the agency is set by the Obama administration. So how can the Obama administration escape responsibility for its own policies?

What is the Ex-Im bank:
Export-Import Bank of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It was established in 1934 by an executive order, and made an independent agency in the Executive branch by Congress in 1945, for the purposes of financing and insuring foreign purchases of United States goods for customers unable or unwilling to accept credit risk.

What is an Independent Agency:
Independent agencies of the United States government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Independent agencies of the United States federal government are those agencies that exist outside of the federal executive departments (those headed by a Cabinet secretary). More specifically, the term is used to describe agencies that, while constitutionally part of the executive branch, are independent of presidential control, usually because the president's power to dismiss the agency head or a member is limited.
Established through separate statutes passed by the Congress, each respective statutory grant of authority defines the goals the agency must work towards, as well as what substantive areas, if any, over which it may have the power of rulemaking. These agency rules (or regulations), while in force, have the power of federal law.


The Brazil loan was decided by directors appointed by Bush and Obama had no say in it.



If he had stopped the loan, I would bet a lot of money that people like D'Souza would be claiming that he had stopped the loan so the U.S companies would not be able to expand overseas.



Unfortunately that is the level of D'Souza's analysis and I have read his writings and heard interviews with him so I am familiar with his theory.



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