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Old 03-15-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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No it hasn't.
EVOLUTION actually has been proven. It's why the flu vaccine has to be changed every year. Because flu viruses evolve/change. We know that DNA changes/mutates over time and we know that mutations that promote or favor survival are more likely to be passed on to future generations, resulting in a change in a species over time. We know from fossil records and from microbiology that these things do happen.

 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Well...when one is closed minded and has tunnel vision due to lifelong indoctrination...I supppose that would appear to be the case...
You are describing people who believe in the fairy tale of evolution.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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We already teach social studies and sociology specifically.

sociology (ss-l-j, -sh-)
n.
1. The study of human social behavior, especially the study of the origins, organization, institutions, and development of human society.
2. Analysis of a social institution or societal segment as a self-contained entity or in relation to society as a whole.
The argument isn't about teaching students about creationism. The argument is about teaching creationism as if it were a scientific theory. Creationism isn't a scientific theory. It has no place in the science classroom.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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EVOLUTION actually has been proven. It's why the flu vaccine has to be changed every year. Because flu viruses evolve/change. We know that DNA changes/mutates over time and we know that mutations that promote or favor survival are more likely to be passed on to future generations, resulting in a change in a species over time. We know from fossil records and from microbiology that these things do happen.
Microevolution is much different than macroevolution.

No one seriously disputes that microevolution takes place - but there is no hard evidence that macroevolution occurred or occurs.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You are describing people who believe in the fairy tale of evolution.
None are so blind as those that refuse to see...
 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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Probably only in the US people are talking about this.
In Asia evolution is automatically taught as "true". Good or bad.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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You are describing people who believe in the fairy tale of evolution.
There is no giant, no wizard, no hero, no princess in the theory of evolution.

You can find those things in the Bible.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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None are so blind as those that refuse to see...
That perfectly describes evolutionists.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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We already teach social studies and sociology specifically.

sociology (ss-l-j, -sh-)
n.
1. The study of human social behavior, especially the study of the origins, organization, institutions, and development of human society.
2. Analysis of a social institution or societal segment as a self-contained entity or in relation to society as a whole.
As I said, to teach that it exists as a belief system that is impossible to prove in a scientific way (such as Mythology), but NOT as fact and certainly not to give it the credits that a science/biology/chemistry class has in the public school curriculum. If someone wants their kids to learn Creationism as fact, they need to send them to parochial school or homeschool them.
 
Old 03-15-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Creationism simply suggests an outside entity, science has many mysteries that defy explanation. If they cannot explain Stonehenge or how they built the pyramids, or crop circles, how is that same science going to explain our creation? It is not.
Science is merely the study, quantification and qualification of what exists, of nature. It creates nothing except knowledge of what already exists.

Stone Henge, crop circles, and the pyraminds are all the works of mankind. There is nothing much more to explain. Their origins are pretty well discovered, and the "holes" in knowledge will eventually get filled in.

You are right that they will never "explain" creation because creation is mythological. The Uiverse exists, and operates under the laws of nature. However, since the Universe is so old as to defy the humna imagination and concept of "time", its origina, (assuming that it did always exists (as your side asserts your diety always existed), may never be fully discovered or explained. That doesn't require, however, that some myth has to be ginned up to explain away the lack of factual knowledge.

I have a question that will demonstrate how illogical your side is.

According to your doctrine, god always existed, but created the Universe during "creation".

If so, where was your diety BEFORE creation, since the Universe didn't yet exist.
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