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Maybe. Maybe not. If that's the case you can probably blame prior decades of segregation for that. More likely is that they have lost hope and that has been passed down through generations.
Why does this happen specifically in America more than any other country? There are no solely black inner city ghettos in Britain (where I was born).
You can't just throw money at the problem either. I even blame the way many US cities are designed with wealthy or middle class suburbs and run down inner cities that people just avoid, unless you are unfortunate enough to live there.
Perhaps if there was more social housing as in Europe and Canada spread out across different parts of town, it might help integrate people better and get them away from large inner city ghettos. The former ghettos could then be leveled and turned into a beautiful urban park or something. Anything but depressing concrete and check cashing stores.
This. In America cities are designed with segregation (not necessarily racial segregation) in mind, rich and middle class areas and then the ghetto that "respectable" people avoid. This lends to the mindset of "who gives a damn about those areas" and thus they never get better because they receive no real help. Throwing money at the problem won't make it go away either. Real solutions are needed.
Maybe. Maybe not. If that's the case you can probably blame prior decades of segregation for that. More likely is that they have lost hope and that has been passed down through generations.
Why does this happen specifically in America more than any other country? There are no solely black inner city ghettos in Britain (where I was born).
You can't just throw money at the problem either. I even blame the way many US cities are designed with wealthy or middle class suburbs and run down inner cities that people just avoid, unless you are unfortunate enough to live there.
Perhaps if there was more social housing as in Europe and Canada spread out across different parts of town, it might help integrate people better and get them away from large inner city ghettos. The former ghettos could then be leveled and turned into a beautiful urban park or something. Anything but depressing concrete and check cashing stores.
Those inner city ghettos were once grand middle class neighborhoods.
They were not "designed" that way.
As crime and poverty increased people moved their families to safer neighborhoods.
Growing up in NYC we moved about every 5-6 years further north.
You couldn't even walk in any of the old neighborhoods I grew up in.
Shooting on the street with everyone around and.."nobody saw nothing".
With that type of attitude what do you expect to happen ?
Many things should be considered. There needs to be things in place to give people options. Education should be stressed strongly. Having strong families with both parents in the home should be stressed. The problem isn't as simple as many would like to believe, and neither are the solutions to this problem. However, one must start somewhere. I feel like a strong family is one place to start. Chances are, one thing in common with alot of men who are in prison is being in fatherless homes and in broken homes.
This. In America cities are designed with segregation (not necessarily racial segregation) in mind, rich and middle class areas and then the ghetto that "respectable" people avoid. This lends to the mindset of "who gives a damn about those areas" and thus they never get better because they receive no real help. Throwing money at the problem won't make it go away either. Real solutions are needed.
Throwing money doesn't help. Neither does gentrification. Gentrification will get the crime rates down, but then it won't help those who really need an affordable place to live. The "I have mine so forget everyone else" mentality is pervasive on all facets of society. You see it with the rich, middle class, and working class. You see it with the underclass too.
I don't think it was so much cities were designed to be segregated as it was the way things turned out. Those who were considered the unwanted of society were pushed into certain areas. It wasn't "set aside that area for the unwanted", but rather, the unwanted were sort of just pushed there. At first it was racial. Later on it became a class thing. As for segregation by design, one thing to look at is public housing. The way they were designed, it was to keep them away from everyone else. That was one way of coping with thousands of people moving to Chicago that alot of people didn't want in their neighborhoods. The idea was to isolate them and keep them away from everyone else. As the housing projects were being torn down, the criminals that had been incubated under that environment just spread out to other areas.
Those inner city ghettos were once grand middle class neighborhoods.
They were not "designed" that way.
As crime and poverty increased people moved their families to safer neighborhoods.
Growing up in NYC we moved about every 5-6 years further north.
You couldn't even walk in any of the old neighborhoods I grew up in.
Shooting on the street with everyone around and.."nobody saw nothing".
With that type of attitude what do you expect to happen ?
So on another note, all this talk about the past being somehow better isn't really true, is it?
Anyway, while the cities may not have been designed that way, many American cities have way too much sprawl and have neglected their inner cities for what looks like decades (or longer). It's like people generations ago were just left there and abandoned to fester in their own hopelessness and misery. It's easy to just write those people off though and blame them. Nothing will change as long as that trend continues.
There should have been massive investment in actual public housing years ago as in Europe.
So on another note, all this talk about the past being somehow better isn't really true, is it?
Anyway, while the cities may not have been designed that way, many American cities have way too much sprawl and have neglected their inner cities for what looks like decades (or longer). It's like people generations ago were just left there and abandoned to fester in their own hopelessness and misery. It's easy to just write those people off though and blame them. Nothing will change as long as that trend continues.
There should have been massive investment in actual public housing years ago as in Europe.
There was. That failed as well. Even a resurgence of money to renovate didn't help.
Less than 5% ever left public housing for greener pastures. Having a nice new home in a mixed neighborhood didn't change a thing.
So on another note, all this talk about the past being somehow better isn't really true, is it?
Anyway, while the cities may not have been designed that way, many American cities have way too much sprawl and have neglected their inner cities for what looks like decades (or longer). It's like people generations ago were just left there and abandoned to fester in their own hopelessness and misery. It's easy to just write those people off though and blame them. Nothing will change as long as that trend continues.
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There was, much of it was destroyed by the tenants.
The "Great Society" Of the Johnson admin. created an entitlement culture, we now have entire generations of people who exist to collect welfare and nothing more. They reproduce to make more money and could care less about how their kids turn out. They kick them to the street to be raised by criminals to become criminals. As I said in a previous post, STOP PAYING THESE PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE KIDS! All it does is create another generation of useless slugs and criminals.
Do I understand that your solution is to end welfare? How about establish workshops on financial management and esponsibility since that is the real root of the probelm. Crime or rather "getting a hustle" is more of a mode of survival. I bet if there were more jobs that could support a family and more afterschool programs for the kids they would have less time to get into trouble.
For the most part the government is the cause of the crime as much as those who commit them. The fatcats in Washington cater to the well-off and the wealthy with subsidies and at the sametime they vilified the poor and blame them for not working at job that is not there.
It also starts with encouraging the building of stronger families.
DING DING DING!! We have a winner.
This is a major problem in the black community. There's no stigma on being a single teen mom, dropping out of school, having 3 kids by the time you're 19, etc. etc. etc.
Auntie and Grammy will help raise them, the govt will provide money, etc.
This is a revolving door that will continue until someone that blacks look up to (ummmm, Barack?) tells it like it is and quits being politically correct about the issue.
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