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Old 05-25-2014, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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For starters you could stop lying and claiming people are spending their entire lives on welfare when there is a five year cap. I honestly think if you just stop lying people who not be as repelled by you as they normally are.

Also, no, people, liberal or other wise, do not have to be tolerant of liars who have been repeatedly corrected and had facts linked to them but who decide to ignore facts and reality so they can continue to spew lies. Smacking down liars is a public service and no tolerance of lies is needed.
Liberals don't lie? Hahahaha.

Moving on... there is a 5-year cap on one type of welfare. There are other programs available.
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:33 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Do you guys ever get mad at these corporate welfare types - who screw over the system to the tune of hundreds of millions - or are you just pissed off at the idea of some single mother "stealing" $50 extra in food stamps?
Fine. End corporate welfare. Just don't cry, whine, and complain when prices on food, goods, and services increase and you can no longer afford as much because prices are no longer kept artificially low.
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Do you guys ever get mad at these corporate welfare types - who screw over the system to the tune of hundreds of millions - or are you just pissed off at the idea of some single mother "stealing" $50 extra in food stamps?
You mean like Solyndra and Fisscar? You mean like Ethenol and the many other so-called green energy corps that Obama has backed?
You mean like GE? Like the big 3? But to be fair Ford told Obama to keep the money.
We as a nation do offer incentives like tax breaks to corporations like Boeing. It levels the playing field against foreign competitors who enjoy a great deal of Government support.
I agree with you. We pay big bucks on contracts then have to pay more when the company involved demands more. f-35 for example. You don't like this look at both parties. They never saw pork they didn't like.
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Old 05-25-2014, 09:40 AM
 
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Why do leftists ALWAYS lie?

SSDI monthly payments depend on how long you have worked, how much money you made, and the number of dependents you have.

It can easily exceed double your figure.

??? Do you have ANY ides what the difference is between SSI and SSDI??? SSDI is based on your earnings history and how much you paid into Social Security...SSI not so much.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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It's not about reward and punishment. It's about dependency. Some become that way by accident. Others plan it. Either way, it's great to sit around and play games all day while having all the bills paid. You can still work; just have to keep your name clear of assets.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Legit people who hit a bad stretch/medical issue are really caught in bind. You get assistance, your lot improves, then you must make the leap back to being dependent.

But many of these people are taking a huge risk if their earnings potential is now diminshed or issues that put them out of action are not completely resolved.

I've seen people face this choice several times. It truly is a horrible decision to have to make. I'm not sure i can blame them either way because of how the rules are set up.

Just my opinion.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:42 PM
 
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You mean like Solyndra and Fisscar? You mean like Ethenol and the many other so-called green energy corps that Obama has backed?
You mean like GE? Like the big 3? But to be fair Ford told Obama to keep the money.
We as a nation do offer incentives like tax breaks to corporations like Boeing. It levels the playing field against foreign competitors who enjoy a great deal of Government support.
I agree with you. We pay big bucks on contracts then have to pay more when the company involved demands more. f-35 for example. You don't like this look at both parties. They never saw pork they didn't like.
There is low ... welfare and there is corporate welfare. On the bottom it's volume, paying lots of people a little money, and you know, it's for a lot of votes.. cheap votes. At the high end it's low volume, millions but to less people.

The Obama used the low end to get more money for the high end. And watch Obama's useful idiots defend him for doing it.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:42 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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Fine. End corporate welfare. Just don't cry, whine, and complain when prices on food, goods, and services increase and you can no longer afford as much because prices are no longer kept artificially low.
You assume that its our obligation? Your right thou we quit corp welfare the prices will rise i agree. I disagree to why it will rise, it wont be because we quit giving corporation tax breaks and incentives, it will be corporation entitlements that will raise prices. The top 25%ers in income will still believe they are worth crazy 35 million a year in salaries plus performance bonuses. I say tough, take a pay cut and don't raise prices. They obviously don't have a problem cutting their employees who are under them wages and benifits to get paid those high salaries.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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You assume that its our obligation? Your right thou we quit corp welfare the prices will rise i agree. I disagree to why it will rise, it wont be because we quit giving corporation tax breaks and incentives, it will be corporation entitlements that will raise prices. The top 25%ers in income will still believe they are worth crazy 35 million a year in salaries plus performance bonuses. I say tough, take a pay cut and don't raise prices. They obviously don't have a problem cutting their employees who are under them wages and benifits to get paid those high salaries.
That is all private businesses.

Just do not buy from them.....that is your only option.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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You assume that its our obligation? Your right thou we quit corp welfare the prices will rise i agree. I disagree to why it will rise, it wont be because we quit giving corporation tax breaks and incentives, it will be corporation entitlements that will raise prices. The top 25%ers in income will still believe they are worth crazy 35 million a year in salaries plus performance bonuses. I say tough, take a pay cut and don't raise prices. They obviously don't have a problem cutting their employees who are under them wages and benifits to get paid those high salaries.
You are really out there.... buying into the liberal propaganda
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