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Old 05-25-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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There is low ... welfare and there is corporate welfare. On the bottom it's volume, paying lots of people a little money, and you know, it's for a lot of votes.. cheap votes. At the high end it's low volume, millions but to less people.

The Obama used the low end to get more money for the high end. And watch Obama's useful idiots defend him for doing it.
Your right, but that goes to show you how corrupt our system is now, because bush did the same. Both parties are the same, just different sides to a corrupt coin. But still we argue about who is the lesser of the evils.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:52 PM
 
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Your right, but that goes to show you how corrupt our system is now, because bush did the same. Both parties are the same, just different sides to a corrupt coin. But still we argue about who is the lesser of the evils.
Oh and here we go back to BUSH lol. Is he president again? I'll have to read the news to find out.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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Obama appealed to your emotion of fear, envy, hatred, pity, and greed for his deceptive purposes. OBAMA is a politician who as you said in a previous post used the people perceptive to those emotions for his own gain yet there are useful idiots out there that actually think he gives a dam about them. How can he?

Once again he is appealing to peoples stupidity, saying that he finds out about things in the news.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:57 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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There is low ... welfare and there is corporate welfare. On the bottom it's volume, paying lots of people a little money, and you know, it's for a lot of votes.. cheap votes. At the high end it's low volume, millions but to less people.

Obama used the low end to get more money for the high end. And watch Obama's useful idiots defend him for doing it.
That's true but they have partisan blinders on. They don't care who gets harmed in the process as long as their guy wins.
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Old 05-25-2014, 01:59 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You assume that its our obligation? Your right thou we quit corp welfare the prices will rise i agree.
Good. End corporate welfare. No whining, crying, complaining, and/or demanding more social welfare benefits from those who then can't afford to buy food, clothing, etc., anymore because the prices are no longer being kept artificially low. Deal?
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:51 AM
 
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Good. End corporate welfare. No whining, crying, complaining, and/or demanding more social welfare benefits from those who then can't afford to buy food, clothing, etc., anymore because the prices are no longer being kept artificially low. Deal?
NOt to mention the people who are employee using those dollars. Oops, didn't think about that one.

For the record, I am against "corporate welfare" as much as I am against individual welfare. Market forces should be allowed to rule, not gov. intervention.

Gov. , at all levels should do only what is appropriate for gov. at its level. Each level has its purpose and roles, and should stick to those confines, be it Federal, State, County city etc.
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:56 AM
 
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Because if you're disabled enough to collect disability, you should not be capable of performing work, and visa versa.

You're disability should be cut off at least, and likely you should face criminal prosecution for fraud.

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Old 05-26-2014, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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SSDI is not federal welfare. It is an insurance plan that all working Americans contribute to.


Let's not worry so much about what Americans are getting from their government but let's be more concerned with the BILLIONS of dollars spent on "foreign aid".
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Old 05-26-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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SSDI is not federal welfare. It is an insurance plan that all working Americans contribute to.


Let's not worry so much about what Americans are getting from their government but let's be more concerned with the BILLIONS of dollars spent on "foreign aid".
That's what alot of people don't know about SSDI because they listen to too much hate propaganda. In order to qualify for SSDI you had to have worked for a long number of years. If you never worked a day in your life you would not qualify for SSDI.
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:37 PM
 
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Crumbs?

Plenty of people live comfortably enough off welfare. Most welfare recipients are lifetime recipients. It's not hard to set yourself up for lifetime assistance if you are disabled or pregnant every year or two. WIC usually lasts for 5 years. The more kids you have, the more you're rewarded. The less you try, the more you're rewarded.

I'm not sure why we do it this way, but as long as we do, I'm going to enjoy it. Don't you want to enjoy life as well?
How do I get on Welfare?
If you want welfare so bad, quit your job and go get it. Enjoy providing every document that's ever been issued to you, submitting yourself and/or your kids to blood tests, going in for recertification interviews where they will cut you off if you don't go (whether or not your employer will allow), and in some cases, sitting on a waiting list for 10 years (provided that the waiting list is open, which spoiler alert if you're trying to get section 8, chances are 99% that where you live it is not.)

Then come back and tell me how glamorous welfare is. Yes, people on welfare cheat the system. I accept that probably the majority does. But the system is designed so poorly that I cannot blame them for doing so.
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